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Electric Scissor --> Electric Pick Gun?

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

Electric Scissor --> Electric Pick Gun?

Postby yungning » 1 May 2004 23:31

i bought an electric scissor (only 99 cents) last week and modified it to be able to put a 3 inches needle on it.

now the needle can move up and down really fast and powerful.

but i can only open a few locks and it's way slower than manualy pick.

why? (i only gave a little pressure on tension wrench)

and can an electric pick gun pick the mushroom or spool pins locks?

thx...

by the way, i never have chance to see an electric pick gun, and too poor to buy one.
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Postby Pheniox » 2 May 2004 0:04

it takes some learning to use a pickgun effectivly. Remember, its more random chance than skill with a pickgun.
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electric pick

Postby PYRO1234321 » 2 May 2004 2:07

the movement from this device is not fast/abbrupt enough to be really useful
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Electric scissors

Postby Romstar » 5 May 2004 21:17

Like hell you say? :wink:

I've got a pair here that does a great imitation of a jack rabbit on speed if you set it loose on any flat surface.

Makes a noise that could wake the dead, and show you just how unimportant doors are to the dearly departed. Whom, I might add should have the decency to STAY departed. :lol:

Don't mind me too much tonight. I'm working on an hour's worth of sleep. :P
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Electric Scissors

Postby pickmonger » 6 May 2004 3:48

In my opinion electric scissors can make a workable pickgun. Not as easy to use as some of the ones you buy, but it can be made to work.

In addition to it requiring more practice to get it to work, I have been told that of course, some units work alot better than others.

John Minnery has a picture of one in his book on pickguns. He says he taught his sister to open locks using one.

Interestingly enough there is a well known video that shows scissors being used as a pickgun. If a picture is worth a 1000 words, heres the cover photo of a video on picking showing one being used.
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Electric scissors

Postby Romstar » 6 May 2004 4:34

I was bloody well wondering when someone would post that image. :wink:

I know a fellow who made a pick gun from an electric solonoid, so it's really only limited to what you can dream up. If it bounces, vibrates, spins or moves I am sure someone will think of a way to get it to pick locks.

Happy building,
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Postby yungning » 6 May 2004 22:49

i will post a picture of my electric scissor pickgun soon...thx
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Postby monkeE » 18 May 2004 23:52

I'm currently making an electric pick gun out of an "easy stitch" kinda sewing wand. I'll let you guys know how it goes, but from the looks of it, it looks like it is fast enough, and it sure is burly enough :).
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ROTFLMAO

Postby lockpickroy » 13 Jun 2004 3:21

Lock picking hobbyist turned licensed locksmith thanks in part to lp101.com
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Re: ROTFLMAO

Postby mcm757207 » 13 Jun 2004 12:19

lockpickroy wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3557&item=6102446173&rd=1


this is what I got:

The item you requested (6102446173) is invalid, still pending, or no longer in our database. Please check the number and try again. If this message persists, the item has either not started and is not yet available for viewing, or has expired and is no longer available.
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Postby mbell » 13 Jun 2004 13:15

The item has been removed from eBay for violation of its terms and conditions - not allowing lock picks for sale. I have seen this happen loads of times.
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Key Machine

Postby Guitar_J » 13 Jun 2004 13:21

YEs! What Crap! !!! !!!!!
They had a Foley Belsaw Key Cutting machine on their site that I was following and now it's gone.. a Key cutting machine?! WHY?! Ebay needs to loosen up...
I wish the world was flat like the old days, and I could travel just by folding the map.
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Re: Electric Scissor --> Electric Pick Gun?

Postby plot » 14 Jun 2004 3:18

yungning wrote:and can an electric pick gun pick the mushroom or spool pins locks?


yes. it's all about how a pick gun works, it hits the top pins up leaving the bottom pins below the shear line. at that precise moment you have to turn your tension wrench to open the lock. Now, the hit must be abrupt and must hit all the bottom pins at the same time with alot of force so it overcomes the top springs and pops the top pins up above the sheer line. This means that the needle of the gun needs to hit the pins at the same time, so when it hit's it's gotta be even with the pins, no slanting the gun into the lock.

Now, becuase you turn the lock at the moment the top pins are knocked up, it doesn't matter what security features they have as they won't touch the sides of the plug and bind up if everything is done properly.
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Postby pick_maker » 14 Jun 2004 21:48

Just made the pick attachment a half hour ago:
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Pick gun powered up:
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I used it on my cutaway lock and I see maximum effect as the pick is entered, touching pin one and losing effect gradually as it progresses to pin 5. As the power is somewhat weak, inserting the pick full length and activating the gun will stop the motor. In sum, I would rate it two steps above a wire snap gun and about 5 steps below a $100 electropick as it does not have strong enough power output. If Minnery's video states the setup effectively picks locks I would have my doubts. A two pin lock- yes. Three pin- maybe. I would like to believe the modified scisor pick gun concept will work- maybe modifying the power supply to accept a higher voltage cordless phone battery? Who can elighten us as to the video's contents?
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Postby mcm757207 » 14 Jun 2004 22:58

pics don't load
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