Master Combination Lock Trick

[karl]

has anyone here made a key for master locks?and would my idea of using a piece of metal ground to the shape of the key work?to get the pins out of the lock,do you have to pick it first? thanks!

----karl

[Varjeal]

*cough*Umm..yeah...a piece of metal ground to the exact shape of the key would work fabulously.*cough, trying not to laugh* If the lock is of the rekeyable variety, you will need to remove the cylinder and then either pick, shim & pick, or use the operating key and a plug follower to remove the cylinder.

[karl]

ok,i was just asking.theres no need to be mean about it .nuts!i cant pick master combination locks!the pins in mine wont move down for some reason.

[rakemaster]

I'm not sure I understand. If its a combination lock
there's no key, no pins, right?

If there is a key why not just use a key blank in answer to
the last Q?

[Varjeal]

karl: My apologies for being rude. It was hard not to chuckle a bit though...hehehe..

[karl]

rakemaster,there is a little keyhole in the back of master combination locks.varjeal,i suppose it was a stupid question .i am more interested in picking locks,so i dont know much about makeing keys and stuff.

[Varjeal]

That's o.k...if you make frequent use of the search button in combination with your questions, and of course lots of practice, you'll get the hang of it. 'Sides, I needed the laugh.

If it helps at all, study the motion of using a key, and try to duplicate that a bit while you're picking. The goal of using a pick is to simulate the profle or "bitting" of the key. That's the part that some refer to as "notches".

One of the most important factors is tension. If you want to know how much tension is necessary for a particular lock, repeatedly and slowly operate the working key in the lock, the amount of pressure it takes to turn that key closely approximates the amount of tension necessary.

Good luck.

[karl]

oh,ok,thanks!

[Mad Mick]

The amount of tension required can't be stipulated enough. If you're hot, cold, tired, hungry, in an awkward position, being watched etc. you are more likely to be tense to the point of applying too much tension. Less is more, you need to be comfortable when picking and correct tension is more important (IMHO) than picking technique. You can have excessive tension on a plug and a perfect feel for setting the pins, but tension will win the argument.

[Chucklz]

If you need to relax, just close your eyes and take a couple big breaths before picking. Concentrate on how you are breathing while doing this (the idea here is that if your concentration on your breathing, your not thinking about the lock you have to pick etc.)

Or, while picking, think about something else, and you may be supprized when the lock just pops open for you. After practice, your fingers will "know" what to do, just dont overthink the lock.

[karl]

thanks,i'll try that as soon as i can get my lock back(its on my locker and schools out for another week ).

[karl]

ok,im in the middle of making one of these keys and i discovered a solution to the blank key problem,just get a normal bank key(i dont know what type but its the commen ones)and grind the bottem part off,and it fits into the lock,you may have to grind a little bit off the side too.well thats what i did and it works!clever me!

[CitySpider]

"Normal blank key" is a little broad, considering there are hundreds, if not thousands, of different kinds of blank keys. I might consider a Kwikset blank "normal" -- for someone in Australia or, say, Ireland, a completely different kind might be normal. Could you tell us what sort of lock the blank is for, or perhaps provide a picture?

[Exodus5000]

Or, while picking, think about something else, and you may be supprized when the lock just pops open for you. After practice, your fingers will "know" what to do, just dont overthink the lock.

Scary, I tried this advice on a whim and concentrated more on a tv show than the lock i was picking. This lock has 2 security pins, made by brinks. It has been giving me some trouble recently, and i picked it in less than 30 seconds. This may just be luck, but in lieu of your advice i find it very erie. I'm going to try it a few more times to make sure.

As always, very good advice chucklz

[Exodus5000]

Ok, im thoroughly convinced you provided me with the single most efficient way to speed up my picking. It's been about 10 mins and i picked the lock about 4-5 more times in this manner where i could not pick it at all before.

Thank you. And everyone else, TRY this technique.