door knob...how do I get to the plug/pins??

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 0:36

I have this door knob.... its seems to me to have a kw1 keyway,

I am trying to figure out how to het to the plug so i can change out the pins..

does anyone know how to do this? Could really use some help..

here's the lock..

what do you guys make of it? I checked it over and looked for some little pin holes.. {like on a yale door knob lock} but could find nothing...
I have search and found nothing about it, .. some one has to know..

by **whiteknight38** » 29 Jan 2007 1:00

It's not a Kwikset, its an old Weiser. The plug will come out if you pick it 180 degrees in reverse to key opening, and pull on the flat strip (the tail-piece actuator) coming out the rear of the assembly.
You can also actuate the release of a Weiser KIK cylinder by inserting a "Weiser shim", a piece of thin shim stock, into the keyway on the right hand side of the key, and depress the same release mechanism you can release by taking off the entry knob set, and pushing on the release system, without having to dissasemble the lock.
It saves a few seconds in the field.
Incidentally, picking Weiser KIK's (key in knobs) can be a frustrating expeience for young lock-pickers if you pick them the wrong way, and find the cylinder body, (teh brass plate and plug - in hte photo) fallls out in you hands, and you can't figure out how to put it back witout a key.

by **zeke79** » 29 Jan 2007 1:06

As whiteknite says. I think you had already posted these picks elsewhere. Please do not double post. FYI, this question had already been answered numerous times for weiser locks, please search next time.

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 1:11

I got the lock in my hands right now and ...cant find this flat strip thing your taking about on the back.. ??

so i should pick it the opposite way of unlocking it. then pull what exactly?

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 1:15

This is not a double post. This is a diffrent lock then posted before. the last one was a yale. this is not.

these questions i am asking is good usefull information for people.

so instead of you telling me to search..

so FYI you search before you start knocking people post.

we would all appreciate that.

thanks

by **zeke79** » 29 Jan 2007 1:23

Regardless, yale or weiser the hardware design is the same. Pull out on the tailpiece when the lock is picked.....

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 1:33

no..the hardware is not the same. or i would not of asked,

I am just trying to learn more about this... just like you once did.

so calm down there buddy

by **zeke79** » 29 Jan 2007 1:36

Ok, I have no idea what I am talking about... Try this then pick the lock rotate 90 degrees and stick an awl in the hole on the side of the knob. Then pull out on the knob... If that does not work then you are doing nothing we say to do right.....

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 1:41

there is not little hole on the knob like a yale. thats why i am asking ...i dont understand..

check out the picks...

by **zeke79** » 29 Jan 2007 1:41

Then it comes out like a weiser. Try picking the lock in the other direction and pulling out on the tailpiece.

by **zeke79** » 29 Jan 2007 1:44

You do need to try turning the tailpiece too while pulling out.

by **keysman** » 29 Jan 2007 3:20

Pull out on the small square tail piece.. you may want to use a pair of vice grips to clamp the tail piece out. Pick as usuall or use the correct key, turn 90 degrees ( I forget witch way) , the cylinder will come out the front similiar to a Kwickset.

by **2octops** » 29 Jan 2007 3:24

Turn the key to the left.

by **jimmysmith** » 29 Jan 2007 3:32

Dude, Your awesome. .. I picked it... rotated the plug 180* then pulled that thing in the back. the lock fell apart in my hand. and everything was pretty smooth from there on out, it was wierd, the housing that held the top pins and spring was all plastic.

zeke79 thanks for the help. also every one else. your advice was great. always is. always appreciated.

one thing I had a question about. you guys said this lock is a weiser.
the thing is.. it has a kw1 keyway,, and also when i went to chacge the bottom pins.. i used my kwickset plug foller and it fit 100% perfect.
I have not studied the weiser lock much,,,,{or at all} and i was just wondering what make it a weiser. from everything i am getting from it .. i was thinking kwickset. ...

I installed all new locks on my grandparents house and this was on a bedrrom door. one thing that i thought was wierd to was that most the locks {door knob handles and locks} were mix matched... gold and silver.

appreciate the help

by **UWSDWF** » 29 Jan 2007 11:43

yep the last time this knob was approached it was by me....

door knob...how do I get to the plug/pins??

door knob...how do I get to the plug/pins??

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