Has anyone seen these before ?

[UNFORGIVEN]

i was rummaging through some locks i have aquired and in with the 3/5 lever sash and dead locks and tones of rim cylinders i came across this



i personaly have never seen a rim cylinder like this before i think it may have been used many years ago on front entrance doors in london

also going through some of my grandads stuff from his shed witch we cleared out a a few weeks ago in with all the old car parts and genral cr*p
that grandads tend to keep ( bless them )
i found this



only by looking at the box i could tell it was old as i dont think they staple them together anymore
inside to my amazement was this



going by the condision of the box i was supprised to find it still in one peice and in mint condition but i have never seen a screw in rim cylinder in the side of a mortise dead lock

more pictures:






the screw in cylinder is a 6 pin yale

just thought i would share these with everyone

sorry for the poor quality pictures as i took them on my phone ( digi cam wasent to had at the time )

[lunchb0x]

its always interesting when i come across an aold lock, even better when it still functions properly, thats a good find

[JackNco]

that yale is very cool. i bet it takes on hell of alot of tension to move that bolt!

Ide be very interested to see the top lock opened up and im sure im not alone, if you have the time that is.

[raimundo]

I don't think that is really an antique, I notice the yale logo coined into the keys is in a modern style, in the long ago, the key bows often had very ornate borders coined into them. those keys look like modern ones.

[nhughz]

The Wellinton lever lock has been used on coucil communal entrances in the past and is operated via thumb turn on the inside. I think they were made with 3, 5 and 6 levers although i could be wrong. I have also seen Yale locks very similar to that one on old Aluminium doors.

[bonez]

this is a very simalar union found on a meter cupboard.





picked very easy,had to turn cylinder with a screwdriver
to throw the bolt.

j.

[UNFORGIVEN]

i havent picked it yet but when i get wimt i will take it appart and take photos of the inside of the dead lock for all to see
i would say it is proberbly simular to the union bonez has

[bonez]

yeah would like to see pics mate,

is the yale mortice case excepionally heavy?
the one i have is a hell of a chunk!

cheers
j.

[UNFORGIVEN]

its a fair weight for a dead lock yer ill try and take picturs soon

[acl]

You can still get the Wellington at Aldridges, pretty sure you could get the screw in cyls as a special too,i know ihave one on the van.

[UNFORGIVEN]

here is a pic of the inside of the top lock pretty basic really i thought there was more to it

[workstation]

Very interesting!

I would very much like to see the workings of the lever rim cylinder.

[JackNco]

ya they look pretty cool

[raimundo]

ouch, look at the blood on that bench, careful with hand tools guys

[UNFORGIVEN]

stains on the bench have nothing to do with hand tool injurys lol
thats the remains of people who ow me money lol