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by meijerbrantm » 31 Jan 2007 21:49
Alright, well, I'm picking a deadbolt on my back door because I don't have a key for it just for fun since I never really have done them before. Anyways, I get it with the wrench to be able to turn it, but I can only turn it so far. Just about 90 degrees, a little less, but I can not turn it any further. I know I'm spinning it the right way, but I can't seem to make it past this area, any suggestions?
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by meijerbrantm » 31 Jan 2007 22:13
also, sorry to double post, but deadbolts can only turn one way correct? I put a key in my front deadbolt and I know i'm turning the tension wrench the correct way as to my front deadbolt
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by Vincent-XXI » 31 Jan 2007 22:26
also, sorry to double post, but deadbolts can only turn one way correct?
Some open by rotating anti clockwise, some by rotating clockwise.
Try picking the lcok, while atempting to turn the other way.
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by Gordon Airporte » 31 Jan 2007 22:55
You might have to lean into the door or lift it slightly by the handle because the bolt is being trapped.
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by meijerbrantm » 31 Jan 2007 22:56
i just tried both ways and you hit a point where you can't break tension... it's just like hitting a wall... i tried use a thicker piece of steel, a screwdriver, to turn it past that point because my tensioner wrench would be at the point where it would start bending but to no avail. It just sticks there. if the lock is on the left side of the door, you should turn the deadbolt clockwise and if it's on the right side it should be counter clockwise correct? I did try both ways but it just seems they are both stupid and they don't want to go any further, perhaps i'm just doing something wrong? i can open the handle with lock just not the deadbolt
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by whiteknight38 » 1 Feb 2007 11:39
You're right about the turning directions, although there are some rare exceptiions to the rule. Firstly, did you understand Gordon's suggestion? If a door has shifted or expanded in it's frame, the bolt may be rubbing against the strike, and your wrench may not be strong enough to complete the turning cycle. Try it with the door open, (assuming you can open the door from inside) or, try to complete the turn with a small screw driver.
Secondly, are you sure you mean 90 degrees and not 180?
90, is a quarter turn. 180 is a half turn, leaving the keyway upside down.
A lot of locks will freeze at 180 if one or more upper pins drop down into the gap in the plug, which is normally filled by the working key.
I'd say maybe one lock in every 80 or so will do this.
Thirdly, the lock may be pooched. Does the bolt extend and retract normally by the thumbturn? Take off the mounting screws, and have a look at the tailpiece and try and figure out if it is functioning properly.
Does teh tailpiece fit into a cross shaped opening in the bolt as seen through the cross bore hole in the door?
Its possible to put a deadbolt together with the tail in the wrong part of the cross, so that the thumbturn will extend and retract, but the key function won't operate properly. Since you don't have a key you can't test this, but try reassembling with the tailpiece differently adjusted.
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by Shrub » 1 Feb 2007 22:36
Is the bolt painted over?
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by Krypos » 2 Feb 2007 10:22
or maybe its the classic noob panic.
you know, the one where the drivers get slightly caught in the bottom of the plug and keep the plug from rotating the rest of the way.
try using your tension wrench at the top, put it in backwards, so the short end is sticking out, and then use it to push up on the driver pins, then apply your turning force.
i suspect that this may help.
also, as no one has yet stated: DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU RELY ON! only experienced pickers who know all of the possible consequences and how to fix them should be doing this.
otherwise, you could break your door so no one can use it until it is fixed.
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by Deathadder » 2 Feb 2007 12:07
darnit, i was gonna say that one! Are you sure you know the difference between 90 degrees and 180? 180 is upside down, and 90 is horizontal. if it is 180, then what probably happened is the driver pins got stuck in the groove in the bottom of the plug, all you do to rectify this is lift them up and turn. Another thing, can you turn the plug in the opposite direction and have it turn back to the original position? If so, then completely rule out my comment here and take one of Whiteknight's into consideration, he obviously has more expertise than me, and could probably help you out in the chance that this is not the case.
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by ponsaloti » 2 Feb 2007 19:32
is it a lever lock?
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