Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

How do you get to the pinstacks w/o a key?

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

How do you get to the pinstacks w/o a key?

Postby WOT » 3 Feb 2007 15:36

Some Schlage offer two options, one by turning with a key, then pushing out with a follower and from the top.

Some I have seen has casted top part that can't be opened from the top and the only option seems to be removing the cylinder with a key. If I want to get to the pinstacks on a such cylinder lock without a key, is it possible to do so without picking or bumping?

Icores on the other hand are incredibly easy to get to the pin stack without a key. Set it in a decoding block, punch it out.
WOT
 
Posts: 750
Joined: 9 Nov 2006 21:44
Location: (SFIC) USA

Postby HeadHunterCEO » 3 Feb 2007 16:15

pick it
shim it
Doorologist
HeadHunterCEO
 
Posts: 1262
Joined: 7 Apr 2004 21:10
Location: NY,NY

Postby mrdan » 3 Feb 2007 17:59

shim it
NyQuil, the stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room-spinning medicine.
mrdan
 
Posts: 356
Joined: 5 Aug 2006 1:34
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby 2octops » 3 Feb 2007 18:00

Just pick it.

Not all SFIC can be punched out from the bottom like a Best. Falcon cores use a flat retainer that covers the entire length of the core and is staked on.
2octops
 
Posts: 789
Joined: 12 May 2005 16:35
Location: Georgia

Postby Deathadder » 4 Feb 2007 0:46

grind it :twisted:
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
Deathadder
 
Posts: 546
Joined: 22 May 2006 13:05
Location: Ocala, Florida

Postby mercurial » 4 Feb 2007 2:32

As has been said above - shim it or pick it.

Obviously you would've been aware of the second option already.

The shims used for this are (obviously) not the same as padlock shims - don't even try using those. The appropriate shims can be purchased, but a great alternative is found inside some of the anti-theft tags on shop merchandise.

Simply slice the tag open, and you should find 2 or metallic 3 strips. The ones I have here are 6mm x 37mm. I don't have calipers handy to measure the thickness, but suffice to say they are extremely thin. The antitheft tag that contains these strips is only slightly larger than the strips themselves, it is often used on merchandise such as CDs.

I find these strips to work at least as well as the commercially available shims, they are even durable enough to get several uses out of each shim, if you handle them gently.

You will even find some locks (esp cheap chinese padlocks) that can be shimmed open in this manner from the _front_ of the cylinder, as they have not bothered to machine a 'lip' onto the front of the plug.

...Mark
mercurial
 
Posts: 176
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 6:44
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Return to Locks

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests