Papaiz cr 20

[maverick3000]

i have a papaiz cr 20 lock and wanted some help on learning hoe to pick it

[cjames73]

welcome to the site.
papaiz locks seem quite tough to pick from what i have seen. use the search button top right of screen as there are lots of threads about these locks.
hope this helps

[xnoobandrew]

I don't even know what those are. Lol.

I'll try to look up specs, and other people who have probably attempted this lock.

[xnoobandrew]

Where is the edit button when you need it?!

I know that this maybe really obvious to some people, but not to me. What does the CR mean?

Also is it a cylinder (for common door locks)? or a Padlock or what?

[maverick3000]

Its a little padlock about the size of my thumb... i have no idea what the cr means either.

[Wolfe]

Tts a 20mm pad lock with a single locking cylinder and should have security pins. CR is a model reference the number after is a size reference. so CR20 is a W = 20mm
as for picking it i would recommend lightly raking it with light tension.
hope this helps.
W.

[Wrenchman]

I impressioned a cr20 a couple of days ago, my first pin tumbler lock to impression, yea

Anyway, it´s a very easy lock to pick, not worth raking, light tension and then just lift each of the four small pins, click click click click

No spool, no security!



Wrenchman

[xnoobandrew]

Nice, GJ. Hope you got what you asked for.

[whiteknight38]

I have a Papaiz factory cutaway like the one pictured in the post "Constructing a cutaway lock" that I found searcing Papaiz.
It's a CR 50, with a base width of two inches, and a height of 1 5/8 "
It has mushroom driver pins, so maybe the CR 20 has as well.
The thing is, the pins are practically microscopic!
Despite this security feature, and the small scale of the keyway, (which by the way, makes picking many padlocks troublesome) this demo lock rakes open surprisingly easy with a normal sized wrench/rake combo.
The CR 50, BTW, features heel-toe shackle locking, and could theoretically be shimmed, but you'd need two shims.
My advice is to practice on regularly sized locks.

[whiteknight38]

Everybody loves cutaways, right? Here is a shot of a Papaiz CR50, beside a US dime, and also a Schlage #9 (.300) pin to give an indication of scale. The pins in this lock are very minute, and the appearance is even more pronounced in real life. Anyway, the spool security pins (not mushroom as I said in my last post - sorry) are clearly visible.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310 ... papaiz.jpg