Picking a "BEST" lock

[jif10022]

I am trying to pick a lock made by the company "Best" below are the tools and lock i am talking about and a picture of the lock. I have been picking locks for only a few weeks and have been able to pick a few master locks and many small luggage locks. In the picture i have numbered the picks that i have this way you can tell me which one to use even if i don't know it's name. If you could please tell me the number of the pick that would be best.

thank you

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7347/dsc01196yc5.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8263/dsc01189mo8.jpg

[iNtago]

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/
http://deviating.net/lockpicking/15.01-sfic.html

i'd give up and practice on an easier lock there pretty hard

[jif10022]

Well my dad has challenged me to do this one. You see he got me my lock picking set and then said he wanted to see i learned how to use it yet. I want to be able to do so he feels like it was a good purchase. He also said that if i can do it he will give my 50 bucks. Behind the door is a coat closet we don't use it anymore so it is emty but i am pretty sure that he has already taped the 50$ to the back wall in there as a suprise for if i do get it open well he is gone.
I have been trying for about half an hour but don't really know what to do. Any pointers would be helpful. What amount of pressure and what pick to use (please use the numbers i gave in the pictures when talking about picks since i don't know their names.
thanks BTW this seems like a great forum.

[cjames73]

http://deviating.net/lockpicking/15.07- ... cking.html
you will need the special wrench shown on this link. you have 2 shear lines instead of 1 and all pins must line up on either line but not both
ask your dad if you can prove your skills on a easier lock

[jif10022]

do you know a site where i can get that tool? Also i am a little confused about the 2nd shear line. How do i line it up in one shear line and not the other.

[jif10022]

looking at that link you supplied it seems that that type of tension wrech reomves the whole lock cylinder. I only need to unlock it not change the cylinder do i still need that special wrench? I am only cinfused because in the animation on that page the lock slides out when unlocked rather then turning.

[cjames73]

Also i am a little confused about the 2nd shear line. How do i line it up in one shear line and not the other.

thats where the special wrench comes in. your only putting tension on the core shear line and not the other.

its easier to remove the core than just unlocking it.

[fsdhy]

looking at that link you supplied it seems that that type of tension wrech reomves the whole lock cylinder. I only need to unlock it not change the cylinder do i still need that special wrench? I am only cinfused because in the animation on that page the lock slides out when unlocked rather then turning.

you don't have a choice, that tension tool always hits the 2nd shear line (control key) which will pop the core out. then you use a screwdriver to turn the latch and unlock the door. there is no reliable way to target ONLY the 1st shear line (operating key).

[jif10022]

but can i then easily put the core back in. So it is the same as it was before. Is it possible to not be able to get the core back in or does it just slide in?

[cjames73]

yes it will go back in. but as said before, pick a different lock if you can and one that isn't in use.

[jif10022]

well i really want to try this one. Where can i get this special wrench as seen in that animation?
thanks

[jif10022]

Or can i bump key it? I guess i could go to home depot get a bunch of BEST keys and see which one fits they file it down. Unless there is something in this lock that prevents this. I think my dad would be even more impressed if i could "make my own key".
So can i bump this lock?

[2octops]

You can bump these, but they use a tip stop instead of a shoulder stop. The tip stop comes to rest on the bradded on ring on the back of the cylinder. If you bump it, you are almost guaranteed to damage the lock.

[jif10022]

if i file down the end of the key can i avoid this? How should i bump differently?
thanks

[fsdhy]

Or can i bump key it? I guess i could go to home depot get a bunch of BEST keys and see which one fits they file it down. Unless there is something in this lock that prevents this. I think my dad would be even more impressed if i could "make my own key".
So can i bump this lock?

Personally, I can't stand Best locks. I hate them with a passion. The factory never pins them right, and I find quite a few where the core gets so jammed into the lock body that they can't be removed even with the correct control key... So what I would do is tell your dad that this is not a good lock to practice "non-destructive entry" on. Tell him its a perfect lock to practice "destructive entry". Get out the drill