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What's a 'virtually impossible to pick' lock?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby toomush2drink » 6 May 2004 11:32

Im not saying they are more secure but something to bear in mind is you can drill a cylinder quite easily and open the door but if you drill a lever lock in the wrong place the door will still not open also you would then start having to drill all over the place to defeat it.Also some lever locks have small plastic shims in between the levers and picking can make these deform and stop the lock from opening as they get jammed up. A cylinder is easy to identify as its there in front of you so you know how to go about tackling it but a lever lock isnt, you have to identify through what you can see through the keyhole.Also drilling a cylinder can be done without damaging the door.

Im not doubting your ability as i said before just saying they can be a challenge.

Beer anyone.... ?
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Postby jason » 6 May 2004 12:14

I've finally signed up to photobucket so hopefully these pics will help explain why us over in the UK rate lever locks. The first pic should show the antipick curtain halfway in use with a key, the second is a close up of one of the levers (complete with false notches) which should explain why these are absolute bast***s when fitted in a decent door.

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If this doesn't work blame Marso (I followed his instructions!!)

I took a whole shed load of photos to illustrate the insides of a BS lever lock (this is only a cheapo Securefast rather than a nice new Chubb - cos I didn't want to break the packaging on one of my stock locks - upsets customers)
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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Postby toomush2drink » 6 May 2004 12:19

Superb pics especially of the notches it makes it easier to understand what we are on about.
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Postby mbell » 6 May 2004 13:34

Finally, those in the US & some other countries may start to understand what a modern UK lever lock actually is.
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Postby Chucklz » 6 May 2004 13:50

I just wish we in the US had a few locks like this in common use. I would put one on my front door.
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Postby toomush2drink » 6 May 2004 14:03

I just wish we in the US had a few locks like this in common use. I would put one on my front door.

Well looks like there could be a market to be exploited there, just think get in there first and start importing them and tout them as the latest high security product. This time next year chucklz you could be retired lol
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Postby jason » 7 May 2004 10:03

Sorry about that - is there anyway a mod could delete the duplicate post?
:oops:

If enough people want I'll post more pics of that BS lock showing the anti theft measures in more detail (hardplate, anti saw bolt, boxed & heavy gauge keep).

Thought I'd better ask as we take 'em for granted over here.
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