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All bark and no bite!!!

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

All bark and no bite!!!

Postby horsefeathers » 9 Feb 2007 18:24

Customer lost keys to this beast that he had on his garage door, so when asked to open it I felt a long morning ahead of me.......but after fiddling around trying to get the right tension tool for five mins, to defeat the thick antipick rotating disc, I then set to work and popped it open it less than a minute.

Made by Squire and is a real heavyweight. Got the word 'hardened' stamped all over it. Here it is and the tools I used.

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and the keyway - notice the thick 'hardened' rotating disc in front of the plug.

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Looking down the open shackle end I saw and unscrewed an allen key headed bolt. Incidentally, this could be drilled out with a large bit, bypassing all the hardened stuff, and the core would fall out. Here is the core, and even this has 'hardened' plates either side.


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Here is the core disassembled....

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Notice the puny plug. Well I wasnt fooled so opened it up expecting mushrooms etc and this was what was in it....

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Not one!!!! Apart from having six pin stacks there is nothing to fear.

Bring 'em on!

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Postby UWSDWF » 9 Feb 2007 19:10

that is some terrible keying.... the key gotta look almost flat
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Postby TOWCH » 9 Feb 2007 23:51

Is that a standard sized cylinder? Looks like a decent lock body.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 10 Feb 2007 1:19

Haha, a sheep in wolves clothing.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
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Postby horsefeathers » 10 Feb 2007 4:05

TOWCH wrote:Is that a standard sized cylinder? Looks like a decent lock body.


Nope - smaller than standard, barely an inch long. You could sneeze it open.
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Postby illusion » 10 Feb 2007 7:45

Nice one horsefeathers. :)

Interesting pick you have there - where did ya get it mate?

Sometimes bigger doesn't mean badder - but then the big Medeco, Ingersoll S&G creep into view and remind you that it's not always the case. :)
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Postby Shrub » 10 Feb 2007 8:08

I had the same thing except mine was a difficult biteing and it did take a few mins to pop it to be honest,

Ive still got the one i did here but with no key, from memory they are the Squire Stronghold but i could be having a memory burp as that doesnt seem to sound right :?
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Postby horsefeathers » 10 Feb 2007 12:28

Shrub wrote:Ive still got the one i did here but with no key, from memory they are the Squire Stronghold but i could be having a memory burp as that doesnt seem to sound right :?


Correct,
but eeerrrrr....maybe your eyesight is going! Look at my third pic and you will see HS4 Stronghold stamped in it..... just to confirm! :lol:

The pick is simply a falle curve I ground out from an old hacksaw blade based on pics posted on this forum. It is my preferred pick for padlocks.
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Postby Shrub » 10 Feb 2007 14:28

:lol: I can now youve pointed it out :oops:

Sorry i tend to skip pics of locks i know and just sort of speed look at them,
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Re: All bark and no bite!!!

Postby grim » 11 Feb 2007 1:46

horsefeathers wrote:Here it is and the tools I used.


dude. trim your nails. your thumbnail looks like a boxcutter!
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Postby Bump » 11 Feb 2007 8:16

Not detracting from the satifaction in the act of picking the lock open...well done, nor the quality of the post, great pictures, and as it only took a few minutes its worth giving it a go.

From a commercial point of view would you have persisted with the picks as the customer had lost the keys ? so when asked to open it I felt a long morning ahead of me.......

Me thinks I can hear the sound of an angle grinder strating up after 5 minutes.
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Postby horsefeathers » 11 Feb 2007 16:23

Bump wrote:Not detracting from the satifaction in the act of picking the lock open...well done, nor the quality of the post, great pictures, and as it only took a few minutes its worth giving it a go.

From a commercial point of view would you have persisted with the picks as the customer had lost the keys ? so when asked to open it I felt a long morning ahead of me.......

Me thinks I can hear the sound of an angle grinder strating up after 5 minutes.


Nope - for the simple reason that I do not own an angle grinder!! :lol:

Ya keep going till the job is done, plus he was a repeat customer (did his house locks) so wouldn't have given in. Percy Verance is my middle name!

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Postby raimundo » 11 Feb 2007 16:53

when ya put it back together, put the longest pin next to the shortest, and put short pins in the back behind longer ones.
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Postby Bump » 11 Feb 2007 18:01

horsefeathers wrote:
Bump wrote:Not detracting from the satifaction in the act of picking the lock open...well done, nor the quality of the post, great pictures, and as it only took a few minutes its worth giving it a go.

From a commercial point of view would you have persisted with the picks as the customer had lost the keys ? so when asked to open it I felt a long morning ahead of me.......

Me thinks I can hear the sound of an angle grinder strating up after 5 minutes.


Nope - for the simple reason that I do not own an angle grinder!! :lol:

Ya keep going till the job is done, plus he was a repeat customer (did his house locks) so wouldn't have given in. Percy Verance is my middle name!


More power to your elbow!
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Postby 2octops » 12 Feb 2007 2:52

Bump wrote:Not detracting from the satifaction in the act of picking the lock open...well done, nor the quality of the post, great pictures, and as it only took a few minutes its worth giving it a go.

From a commercial point of view would you have persisted with the picks as the customer had lost the keys ? so when asked to open it I felt a long morning ahead of me.......

Me thinks I can hear the sound of an angle grinder strating up after 5 minutes.


Amen!

Usually on a padlock, I don't even give it 5 minutes.
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