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Cutaway view of "Hung" top pins

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Cutaway view of "Hung" top pins

Postby whiteknight38 » 10 Feb 2007 16:02

The problem of a picked plug turning only 1/2 way around, and "locking up" in the upside down position has been addressed in a few posts, but some of you noobs might like to see a cutaway I made to illustrate the point.
The first pic shows how a key normally forms a "bridge" to fill the split bottom of the plug, but the second image illustrates how one or more upper pins sometimes get caught in the gap, which locks up the plug.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310 ... bridge.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310 ... ngtop2.jpg
It's not a super common problem, but happens often enough in the field, that you have to be aware of it, (and the solution,) to insert a flat pick or wrench handle, all the way into the keyway, and loosen and lift the offending pins, while you complete the turn.
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good info

Postby jimmysmith » 10 Feb 2007 17:06

good information.
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Postby Sesame » 10 Feb 2007 22:47

Ugly problem.

Beautiful photography.

Try holding something in front of your flash, it'll be even better.

Cheers.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 11 Feb 2007 0:43

kwiksets always do this.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
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Postby Wolfe » 11 Feb 2007 14:02

I remember when i first started picking i purchased a kwikset cutaway practice lock and it did this to me the first time i used it. I ended up destroying the lock because i didnt know what happened.
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Postby NanoMachines » 11 Feb 2007 15:02

Thanks.
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Postby illusion » 11 Feb 2007 15:18

Wolfe wrote:I remember when i first started picking i purchased a kwikset cutaway practice lock and it did this to me the first time i used it. I ended up destroying the lock because i didnt know what happened.


What caused it to be destroyed?
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Postby pauly003 » 12 Feb 2007 13:08

Nice job man 8) 8) 8) I find it always helps me to understand things when I can visualize them. That cutaway certainley does a good job of that. I'm sure this post will be a great help to beginners. Keep it up. :D :D :D :D
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 12 Feb 2007 22:09

some of you noobs


Check your name callin mate you have two key pins in there you need a key pin and a flat driver that will rest int he pin housing.

Good thing to show through will save us a hassel of questions, well done mate. :)
[deadlink]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/Locknewbie21/LockNewbie21Sig.jpg[/img]
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Postby bedheadben » 12 Feb 2007 22:46

Nice job and photography :D
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Postby Sesame » 12 Feb 2007 23:44

LockNewbie21 wrote:
you have two key pins in there you need a key pin and a flat driver that will rest int he pin housing.


Good eye, Andy. I missed that.

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Postby Deathadder » 12 Feb 2007 23:51

wow, i cant believe no one though of that before! someone should sticky this...
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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Postby iNtago » 13 Feb 2007 0:13

Why in it on a key chain?
Easy access if you have to explain to someone? :P
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Postby whiteknight38 » 15 Feb 2007 23:13

Good eye iTago. It is indeed on a key ring, on a hole drilled into the last (empty) chamber. Obviously, this is the number one chamber for this unique purpose. The ring holds the appropriate key for this demo lock to keep it handy.
I'll usually drill out the empty number-five or 6-stack to attach a key, (or a laminated post-it note) on any particular KIK lock that is especially interesting for one reason or another. The notes might refer to a particular picking sequence, ie. 3-PIN Picks 3-1-2 CCW (soft tension) Moderate difficulty.
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