help newbie here and im stuck

[thegman]

hey i have a genral idea how to pick looks as i have read quite a few manuals on here and i find it fun. i was just wondering though what am i doing wrong when it comes to pin tumblers? i managed to pick back to front but theres always a pin that wont budge and seems completley stuck. i have watched dave storms lockpicking for the new... and i dont know what im doing wrong. and pointers or tips and things i should look out for? i dont think its my tension wrench pressure either... so any help? cheers

[UWSDWF]

could be one of two things
Firstly not all locks will bind back to front... you need to find your locks particular binding order.
Secondly could be a security pin.

[cjames73]

you could just be using too much tension, lighten up a bit. could also be getting stuck on security pins.
also you dont necessarily need to pick back to front, each lock will have a particular picking order.
what lock are you picking? any pics?

[JackNco]

Best bet is to start with something cheap with no security pins. If you have some up against something with Spools first time round its not the end of the world. Strip the lock down and follow DB's guide

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Should get u started

All the best

[thegman]

hi. i have stripped a lock down and practiced that already but i want to move on to full pin tumblers now with less help for some strong experence. and how do you defeat these security puns aswel?

[digital_blue]

Well, the beauty of that exercise is that by the time you're done, you ARE picking fully loaded locks. And when you're done that, you add some security pins and move on. There's plenty of information here on how to pick spool pin, serrate pins, and mushroom pins. Just have a search.

db

[thegman]

thanks. is there a particluar thread that shows information about all these pins in one?

[jeffiscow]

i am new to lock picking and i wanted to know wut wut kind of lock should i start with

[JackNco]

i am new to lock picking and i wanted to know wut wut kind of lock should i start with

If your in NA get a kwikset if your in England ide suggest a Yale rim cylinder.
Take it apart and follow Digital_Blues guide posted above, and welcome to the mad house

[kodierer]

Try picking a variety of locks. I've spent a few hundred dollars just buying locks. Some of them were even the same model of the same brand. Every lock picks a little different. Try picking the locks with different speeds too. Picking can often times be like a musical rhythm once you get a lock down you can hum the binding order.
You may just have got a lock your not ready for yet. So do be sure and try a variety of different locks and then go back to that one after you build yourself up a little.

[awoodby]

I know, we all want to jump in and do complicated, but the frustration may dissuade you from sticking with it. At the least, get some kind of basic lock you can do now, once you take a couple pins out. After you can get that regularly, add back pins, or better, get another lock and try that. That way you have an easier lock to go back to to keep the touch/feel of what success feels like.

The most common thing I've seen is too much pressure on the tension wrench. Not to say you're doing that, but it's always a possibility.

--Alex

[SUBJUGATOR]

I often start with extremely light pressure on the tension wrench, and make a pass at all the pins with the pick, then I increase pressure with the tension wrench and repeat. Often times you can get stuck by applying too much pressure with a pick and pushing the pin past the shearline. So if it has taken a while and you haven't gotten results, you might want to relax the tension wrench and release all the pins. I've noticed that locks definitely have their sweet spots and some like a particular amount of pressure applied.