False gates

by **Lukekjackson** » 22 May 2006 18:12

I made some myself for the few locks I have, and I have to say that it did make such a difference, although I know what you mean about stopping using them when you the get the idea.

by **pinky** » 22 May 2006 18:18

sight should only help you understand what you are feeling, as its the feel you need to master, along with sound too, as soon as you understand the feel, its best to take away sight.

a valuable tool to get you started, but to be dispensed with as soon as possible. but an excellent training aid.

by **ASML** » 15 Feb 2007 9:24

pinky wrote:dependent on what pick your using, will alter the way in which you pick the lock, for instance for picking ERA locks, a usefull link exists here already, but in essence, you gently run wire across the lever bellies and id the high and low lifts, then pick the high lifts to their gate, then nudge the low lifts to theirs, and if done right, you will miss all anti picks.

you will struggle on chubb 3G114 locks, even highly skilled pickers strugle hand picking these, which is why we prefer a pin and cam, the chubb 3U114 on the other hand is a doddle.

and as ben rightly said, if your lock has no false gates, then it isnt a bs lock at all.

I can pick the chubb 3g114 in 2-3 mins, but an era well!!! i just can not get them , ifind with the chubbs if you turn the pick as much as you can and hold it. then pick!!! once in the f/gate put the pick on the leaver, lift and slowly release the presser , you will find it will come out of the f/gate and in the right gate the put the presser back on hard and go to the nest one. It works for me like i said but im having a lot of !!!!! with ERA's

by **nhughz** » 15 Feb 2007 16:10

by **horsefeathers** » 15 Feb 2007 17:07

ASML wrote:I can pick the chubb 3g114 in 2-3 mins, but an era well!!! i just can not get them , ifind with the chubbs if you turn the pick as much as you can and hold it. then pick!!! once in the f/gate put the pick on the leaver, lift and slowly release the presser , you will find it will come out of the f/gate and in the right gate the put the presser back on hard and go to the nest one. It works for me like i said but im having a lot of !!!!! with ERA's

Unusual first post....

No disrespect, but are you saying that you can pick every 3g114 you meet with this technique, or just the one you have in your posession? If the latter, then picking the same lock over and over does not an expert make, nor provide a real challenge. If on the other hand you are picking all 3g114s this way then well done.....btw, are you a trading lockie or hobbyist?

Do what pinky says as regards era locks - it works!. Personally I find invincibles a bit easier than profits but maybe because the 5g invincible is easier to control the tension on as opposed to the 7g profit.

regards

by **ASML** » 16 Feb 2007 5:14

It's every 3g114, sometime it my take a bit longer it it's on a door which is weathered!!! . I am a locksmith so it's a job as well as a hobby, afer all you must like the job to do it 24/7.
Ill give that a go on the ERA and let you know. iv not long had the pick 3-4 months, when at work i use tryout keys which work very good on most 5lever BS but the pick is a lot quicker. if the lock is not weatherd!!! if so it's the drill, which i do not like to use, after all it's an art to pick.

by **horsefeathers** » 16 Feb 2007 15:44

try-out keys on BS locks? Crikey, i never knew they could be that successful!!! :lol:

regards

by **SteveW** » 16 Feb 2007 22:38

So which set of try-outs are you useing ?

by **lockey1963** » 17 Feb 2007 5:24

very impressive indeed, as none of the recognised top pickers in the country state they can pick every chubb 3G114 they come to.

by **bonez** » 17 Feb 2007 5:28

yup agreed!

we have a new god :lol:

can pick every 3g114 but not an era :twisted:

lucky b***ard.

:roll:

by **SteveW** » 17 Feb 2007 7:25

Which pick are you using ? I think need one !

by **ASML** » 17 Feb 2007 7:56

with the try out keys it's in the nack!!! but it can take quite a long time finding the wright key! it just something iv been able to do well plus hour after hour of trying and trying agine. Iknow thats what i need to do with the pick but it's finding the time with work.
As for been a god well thank you :oops:

, but im sure a god can pike all locks ( ERA ) as well. :cry:

I bet you find some locks harder than others? i know i do.
im still having some !!! with the ERA's got any more tips?

by **SteveW** » 17 Feb 2007 9:35

But what try-outs are you useing.. suber, home made ? I am curious to know which set can open most BS Locks.

by **bonez** » 17 Feb 2007 12:00

SteveW wrote:Which pick are you using ? I think need one !

i want one too!!

off topic "how are you steve!"

j.

by **horsefeathers** » 17 Feb 2007 14:08

"Whats that I can smell?? Horse? Sheep??"

You know the rest........ :lol:

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