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whats the deal with kryptonite bike locks?

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whats the deal with kryptonite bike locks?

Postby Tempature » 25 Feb 2007 4:05

im sure everyones heard about the "bic pen opening kryptonite bike locks"

but is it true?

ive seen videos, how is it done?
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Postby linty » 25 Feb 2007 11:01

apparently they've changed their design (diameter, most likely) so it doesn't work anymore, but basically the pen works the same way as a tubular lock pick, which is more like impressioning than standard picking really. the turning motion when you wiggle the pen binds the pins, they dig into the pen, and eventually when they have dug in enough that the shear line is clear, the lock will open.

in general undersized tubular locks are almost always terribly made.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 25 Feb 2007 12:02

I think they have Rotatating disk mechanisms, Abus granit, or abloy style.

The Bic pen wont work on everyone jsut pretty evenly combinated locks, what i want to know is, what arm chair genious descided to shove a bic pen into there bike lock to start this? :roll:
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Postby Tempature » 25 Feb 2007 15:40

lol good question!
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Postby Eyes_Only » 25 Feb 2007 15:47

LockNewbie is right, I think they switched it over to the disk lock style. I think they're all like that now since I cant seem to find anymore tubular locks for sale from them, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough. :?
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Postby Sesame » 25 Feb 2007 21:47

They had a trade-in program where they would replace the bogus locks with new "better" ones. The program ran about a year and then they ended it. That's really standing behind your product. I missed it by a couple of months and they wouldn't hear anything about extending the program.

I find that blue pens work best.
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Postby Fackifiknow » 28 Feb 2007 1:38

LockNewbie21 wrote: what i want to know is, what arm chair genious descided to shove a bic pen into there bike lock to start this? :roll:


the one who couldnt pick it because the other hand was holding a bong :D
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Postby Locks2Pick » 28 Feb 2007 23:59

Yea I seen a few videos on youtube of this too..

Tempature are you the same Tempature1 off youtube?
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Postby Tempature » 11 Mar 2007 1:54

Locks2Pick wrote:Yea I seen a few videos on youtube of this too..

Tempature are you the same Tempature1 off youtube?


yes i am, :)
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Postby PuI2e_PLaYaZ » 14 Mar 2007 11:04

Lol I saw those vidz too. It's ashame how such a lock can be picked with ease.
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Postby v12v12 » 4 Apr 2007 14:37

Actually it IS TRUE! lol A while back a buddy of mine in NY was complaining about someone locking one of those Krypto NYC Fuggetaboutit lock and chains on his gate, which had been there for months and never taken off... so after coming back from the bars, I spied and we all placed bets on if I could do it... grabbed a bic, and a leather glove... push-twist-push-twist-POP! It opened and it was like winning the super bowl we were all jumping around laughing and in shock! I took out the bic pen and it had indeed impressioned the pins in the lock perfectly! I still have the chain, tossed the POS lock. I tried it again with an older krypo-U-lock I have before I switched and it worked again.... It's just basic impressioning... I still see these types of locks around today, it's pretty scary to see $1000's bikes on a lock with a HUGE overlooked exploit... :lol:

The newer locks use an M-cylinder based off abloy's disc system. I have not see anyone do a profile on such a lock, but I would be interested to see a break down of how they work... anyhow good day.
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Postby raimundo » 5 Apr 2007 12:39

bicking was big news in sept 04, but it has died down to where its seldom mentioned, it does work in warm climate best. plastic loses some of its impressioning qualites as the temp lowers, Once, this was bigger than bumpin on the lp101, but relatively quickly, it calmed down. pushin with a little bit of binding twist to hold the pin while it makes the impression then repeat repeat, pete pete
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