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couple of quick questions

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couple of quick questions

Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 13:26

hi ive introduced myself on the introduction thread and now i have a few quick questions

1. since i live in th UK does anyone know of the laws regarding lock picking. i know that just going out picking some ones lock is illegal and stupid, but is it acutually illegal to own lock picks etc?

2. ive sucessfully made some picks from hacksaw blades and spring steel yet a cant find a suitable metal for a tension tool.

3. how much pressure do you put onto a tension tool i just seem to keep breaking them?

4. which pick shape do you find best?

thanks for any info very much appreciated stephen
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Postby bonez » 25 Feb 2007 13:29

you can find all this in previous threads!!

if your breaking tension wrenches you are using
way to much force :wink:

be gentle :P
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Postby JackNco » 25 Feb 2007 13:39

1. It is not technicaly illegal to own or carry picks in the UK. I deffinatly do NOT recommend you ever even consider carrying picks unless you are moving them or going to open a lock for some one with prior permission given.

Lock if you are searched they can be classed as a burglary tool. then again so can a screwdriver or a hammer.
(Disclaimer: This is my interpretation of the law based on what i have read and people in law enforcement agencies i have talked to)

2. Buy one www.southord.com there well made u can put more pressure on them than you will ever need without bending them and you would have to fold the things to snap them.

3. depends on the lock. ive her the old "the same pressure as you put on a key when pressing one on a keyboard" and "about the same as when you take a contact lenses out"

But as i get more experience and my collection of locks grows ide say thats a good starting point but by no means the end of it.

4. I always use a hook. usually a slimline short hook with a flat top but some locks you will need a long hook. and sometimes i have better results with a standard profile hook. I started on a half diamond and i think thats easier for beginners as you wont drop pins as easily as you would with a slimline hook. its all about preference. some people swear by diamonds most prefer a hook.

ok now thats over, welcome to the mad house
all the best
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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 13:39

thanks bonez very much appreciated
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Postby bonez » 25 Feb 2007 13:46

go to your local scrap dealer and get some
wiper blades the metal inserts in these are
ideal for wrenches :wink:
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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 14:06

thanks for the info i will be getting some old wiper blades and more hacksaw blades very soon

stephen
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Postby bonez » 25 Feb 2007 14:15

experiment with the wrenches different designs
and lengths etc...

above all keep your tension light :wink:

it's the key to consistent picking.

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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 14:28

other than using light tension what is the secrets to picking locks.
ive done simple locks with ease but i have now moved onto padlocks. the large ones im having no sucess since there is very little space to work with.
however the smaller ones i can get the pins to stop down yet the plug wont turn.
can anyone help me please

thanks stephen
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Postby JackNco » 25 Feb 2007 14:32

probably security pins. what locks are you picking?
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Postby bonez » 25 Feb 2007 14:38

if i new the secret mate i'd be laughing :P

it's just hours and hours of practice!

get yourself a decent pickset this will help you alot as well,
keep going back to the easy locks this will boost your
confidence when you start to struggle.

take your time learn the basics and they will stand you in
good stead in the future.

and keep that tension light.

j.

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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 14:56

JackNco ive being trying to pick two different padlocks one of them is a cheap no brand padlock with three or four pins. i can get the pins down but the plug wont turn.
the other padlock is a corbin its made it italy and i think it has around 4, 5 pins this padlock is really difficult to pick as there is very little space i can work with.
with the cheaper padlock ive tried to bump it and ive had no sucess with this method.

thanks stephen
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Postby bonez » 25 Feb 2007 14:59

corbin take a step back from that one for a while mate,

try something easier :wink:
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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 15:08

what padlock make would you suggest for a begginer to start out with.
ive tried many thing most without sucess. ive tried picking the lock, bumbing with a home made bumb key and shimming between the shakle and body of the padlock

stephen
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Postby JackNco » 25 Feb 2007 15:19

get you self a few master padlocks, no3 and no140. also get a yale door lock and follow DBs beginners guide in the pick-fu section.
viewtopic.php?t=10677


and as for Corbin, yes they are hard but my ,,,, 4th/5th lock was a Corbin. just stick at it.

But deffinaty get your self a lock you can repin. and as im pushing guide may as well push mine :P
viewtopic.php?t=18327
get a cheap euro 6pin and follow that guide. then you can work your way up.
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Postby stephen_h » 25 Feb 2007 15:25

thanks for the links some nice reading for me
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