Lockpick guns and secure locks ?

[Trip Doctor]

I am fairly new to lockpicking, and I am thinking about gettin a lockpick gun; heard they're fun . I am wondering whether they will work on high security deadbolts though. I was looking at this one:

http://www.lockpickshop.com/p-LAT-17.html

The reviews look good, but I'm not sure how good it will work with high security locks (SFICs for instance). If someone could tell me the success of these types on guns with different types of locks, I'd highly appreciate it.

Thanks.

[Eyes_Only]

Depends on what you mean by high security. Anything "high security" thats sold at home depot or lowes can be defeated by a pick gun. If you're talking about locks like Medeco, Mul-T-Lock, Schlage Primus then no, it will not work on those locks. They are amusing to use or to whip out when you're in a jamb but these tools can seriously damage a lock if you repeatedly use it on one lock for a extended period of time. If you want to get into picking, buy a regular manual set first and read the lock picking guides posted on the general forum to get a good understanding of how locks work and why they can be picked before buying a pick gun

But of course it's really all up to you in the end. I just feel that you can use the pick gun more effectively if you have knowledge on manual picking beforehand.

[Gordon Airporte]

Get a manual pick set and start there. Pick guns are not magic keys that let you open anything without effort, if that's what you're after...
SFIC locks are more difficult to pick than regular locks when they have two shear lines. BEST locks are know to have some very nasty keyways, too, which will hinder you no matter what method you're using.

[Shrub]

A hobby picker has no use for a gun of any kind,

You will find that you will play with it for a day then throw it in a box or draw and then try to sell it on here,

Seen it all before many many times,

As regards lists, no we dont do lists you have to learn yourself,

Please take my advice and dont waste your money, make one by all means but dont go buying one, get good at picking and spend your money on better tools etc,

[Eyes_Only]

Thats true, I hardly ever use my pick gun. Especially now that I started working on high security locks like Medeco.

[Trip Doctor]

Well I do understand how to lockpick, and I have opened some real easy locks manually (with crappy homemade picks). I'm just wondering if I will be able to open more secure locks faster manually than with a gun (after much more practice of course), or whether a gun will always be a faster way to open a lock.

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Eyes_Only]

A pick gun may be faster but a lot of times picking a lock manually is a more reliable way of opening a lock. And again, I don't know what you mean by high security but true high security locks like Medeco, Mul-T-Lock and Primus will not be defeated by a pick gun.

Foley-Belsaw advertises their pick gun included in their course as being able to open pick proof locks but that just is not true. It may be able to defeat locks with security pins but thats about it.

Honestly, if you are a hobbiest there no need and no fun in using a pick gun.

[Shrub]

Hmm, incase ive mis read your question then,

Yes a epg and in some case/skill levels a manual gun will pick a good quality lock quicker than hand picking depending on cuts,

Of course locks that cant be picked with regular tools will mostly not succumb to the guns but as far as security pins and the higher quality pin locks then yes it will be quicker,

I dont understand the quicker part though, are you a lockie? are you wanting to be a lockie? or are you purely a hobby picker?

If your a hobby picker theres no fun in guns as ive said but also whats the point no matter how quick it opens,

If your a lockie or want to be one you have a long read ahead of you as knowledge is your first and best method of entry,