raimundo is an artistic genius

by **gostone** » 28 Feb 2007 19:30

I just received my package in the mail today, after much anticipation. Woooooo are these tools sweet, they have surpassed all my expectations. They are almost too beautiful to use, I am afraid of putting then in a lock. If anyone wants a superbly crafted tool, try the bogotas........ Thanks Ray

by **Lynx40** » 1 Mar 2007 17:18

Don't be afraid to put them in a lock...

I got my set yesterday, too. They are tougher than they appear to be. Yeah, they are little works of art, but they hold up really well.

So far, they've buzzed through the half dozen or so deadbolts I have sitting around and on one occasion, a Brinks R70. I've only gotten that to happen once, though. Could be a "happy accident", but it's the first time I've gotten it open.

Agreed...very nice picks!

by **unjust** » 1 Mar 2007 20:35

yeah i'm just amazed, and the picks are a dream to work with.

which did you get?

by **Lynx40** » 1 Mar 2007 23:57

Can't speak for gostone ( :wink:

) , but I got the bogotas with the tension wrench handle. I like the idea of having a nice, compact set to carry on me.

by **gostone** » 2 Mar 2007 0:30

unjust wrote:

yeah i'm just amazed, and the picks are a dream to work with.
which did you get?

The bogotas are mostly the same, there are 2 in the set, and one has a single point like a diamond, the other is like a 3 point rake. The handles are used as tension tools. Very efficient neat design.........

Lynx40 wrote:

Can't speak for gostone ( ) , but I got the bogotas with the tension wrench handle. I like the idea of having a nice, compact set to carry on me.

Same as yours..............

by **unjust** » 2 Mar 2007 16:34

yup, i've a set of those.

i find that i can use the single for spp work as well.

i need to drag r out for coffee again and bounce a few more ideas off of him on some picks, and figure out how he bends the 2 together, mine keep getting all odd.

by **Lynx40** » 2 Mar 2007 17:59

If you've got a chance to sit down with him and talk it over directly, you've got the inside info there...

When I made my temporary set, waiting for the real ones to show up, I found that the ball point springs (seen in the tutorial) really DO make a difference. They keep things nice and tidy through the whole bend.

I used wiper blades, and between the two, the street sweeper blades seem to hold their edge a LOT better. I can get my home-made ones mirror smooth, but after about 20 minutes of use, they are all scuffed up.

Interesting note, though...my feeble attempt works easier on a few locks than the ones I got from Ray. It could be that I've just had a few more days to practice with them, and for those particular locks, they seem to "fit" better. But, as Ray pointed out in an earlier post, since they aren't all stamped out via machine, sometimes you will find one pair that works a little better on some locks than another pair.

No matter how you look at it, though...I'm glad I got the set. I've been working on a safety pin holder as seen in some photos on this board. I have a bad feeling that I'm going to end up losing them.

by **NIC** » 3 Mar 2007 10:51

What Raimundo sells picks ??Where can i have a look at them ?
Thanks !!

by **UWSDWF** » 3 Mar 2007 10:56

to look at them click the sticky directly above this thread
to buy look at the b/s/t forum or just pm ray

by **a_kayaker** » 4 Mar 2007 2:27

Ok Guys,

I have been looking for Rays picks for sale and cannot find them. I looked in the BST and had no luck. Also tried to PM but it was taking forever to find his id in the Members section.

I have no doubt that I have missed something. Just throw me a bone here and give me a link to rays picks or his PM.

I have had mine for years and would like to pursue some finer tools.

Thx

by **hurri** » 4 Mar 2007 3:36

As you could see,lockpicking is an art,not a science.

by **a_kayaker** » 4 Mar 2007 4:09

a_kayaker wrote:Ok Guys,

I have been looking for Rays picks for sale and cannot find them. I looked in the BST and had no luck. Also tried to PM but it was taking forever to find his id in the Members section.

I have no doubt that I have missed something. Just throw me a bone here and give me a link to rays picks or his PM.

I have had mine for years and would like to pursue some finer tools.

Thx

ARGGG! Nevermind... I am a schmuck.

by **a_kayaker** » 4 Mar 2007 4:10

a_kayaker wrote:Ok Guys,

I have been looking for Rays picks for sale and cannot find them. I looked in the BST and had no luck. Also tried to PM but it was taking forever to find his id in the Members section.

I have no doubt that I have missed something. Just throw me a bone here and give me a link to rays picks or his PM.

I have had mine for years and would like to pursue some finer tools.

Thx

ARGGG! Nevermind... I am a schmuck.

by **unjust** » 6 Mar 2007 18:12

Lynx40 wrote:
Interesting note, though...my feeble attempt works easier on a few locks than the ones I got from Ray. It could be that I've just had a few more days to practice with them, and for those particular locks, they seem to "fit" better. But, as Ray pointed out in an earlier post, since they aren't all stamped out via machine, sometimes you will find one pair that works a little better on some locks than another pair.

No matter how you look at it, though...I'm glad I got the set. I've been working on a safety pin holder as seen in some photos on this board. I have a bad feeling that I'm going to end up losing them.

i had that feeling at first as well. the picks i've done are kiddie stuff in comparison to the quality of ray's stuff, but i managed to bend one of mine in an absurdly fortuitous way and am workign on duplicating it in a ray style pick/wrench/portabilty method.

it took me a while to get used to the difference in feel, but i can use the bogota pick about as well as my favorite of mine now, and if i'm relaxed can use it to rake open my practice locks faster than i can with the bogota rake. it's a different feel on the tension as well, but again, it's a getting used to things issue i think.

by **Lynx40** » 7 Mar 2007 23:03

Yeah, I know what you mean about the difference in feel when getting used to the bogota picks. That definitely has a lot to do with the learning curve.

But, in a way, I think it's got more to do with the lower profile of my home-make picks. Check out my post called "Dumb luck with a bogota" and it kind of explains my journey with my home brews.

I think the narrower wiper blades made for a lower profile, which in turn made for more clearance in the keyway. Not sure if that made the difference in "ease of use", but it sure helps. When I got Ray's picks, I noticed my version was rougly 1/8 inch longer from peak to peak. Again, not sure if that's what makes the difference, but there's something to it.

As I said in earlier posts...that in no way detracts from my opinion of Ray's picks. They are VERY nice, and I wouldn't change a thing. But, even a week later, I find my home brews seem to handle a few locks better. I'll just chalk it up to having another set that may work as a backup when all else fails. You can never have too many picks. :wink:

On a slighlty different note, and not trying to change the thread too much, I also just got done making a set of King and Queen picks. Actually, a double ended pick. That's no slouch either. I stand behind raimundo with his picks, but I have to admit, the Royal Couple have a few outstanding qualities of their own.
Which is just another pick to add to the collection.

And the list goes on....

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