Taken Apart: Yale Dimple Padlock

[lockedin]

This one of my favorite locks I bought off Ebay. I didn't have a dimple lock yet so I decided to get one. It cost around $12 after shipping. Here's the inner workings:

Shrouded.

You can see it has an anti-drill plate.

Housing.

Double serrated pins.

The lock core.

[Eyes_Only]

I didn't know Yale made dimple key locks!

[JackNco]

nice looking lock. nasty looking key pins. what are the driver pins like? if its still open could be cool to take a close up pic and stick it in the Pins thread.

[linty]

seems to me like all they accomplished by putting the keyway sideways was giving you a key that could be put in either way and greatly limiting the key cut possibilities and the differences between cuts.

strange but neat to see.

[n2oah]

That cylinder looks exactly like an American Lock cylinder: drilled for 6, pinned with 5, and the same size and shape.

[maxxed]

The lock appears to be made in taiwan (look at bottom plate) so not original Yale

[lockedin]

Eyes_Only: I didn't know Yale made them either. I was surprised too.

JackNco: I wanted to see the driver pins too, but I was scared I wouldn't be able to put them back in.

linty: This might be true, as thet key pictured above only has two different depths, however, with the serrations and restricted keyway it is extremely difficult to manipulate.

n2oah: When I was playing with it the pins inadvertently fell out. And looking at the sixth hole I thought I had lost one when I could only find five. Only later did I realize that whole was superfluous.

maxxed: Globalization makes it so there is not doubt to the origin of that lock. You'll be hard-sought to find a lock made in the US or Europe save the expensive high-security locks. If any doubt remains, it came in its original packaging. That is a Yale lock.

[Isakill]

I'm with n2oah on that one... if that's the case all you'd have to do (unless you have a proper plug follower) is use the plug turned sideways to hold them in... (Yeah I know "stating the obvious")

I've took my american apart like that many times. To me that's not much of a dimple lock because the pins don't have much to move before setting and there's only 6. But, I suppose it would throw someone off that doesn't know about that lock.

[scorpiac]

linty: This might be true, as thet key pictured above only has two different depths, however, with the serrations and restricted keyway it is extremely difficult to manipulate.

Just wanted to let everyone know that these are not all that bad... I just got one today, mine has 4 different depths with only the 2nd and 5th pin being the same and all pins are serrated just like lockedin's . Funny thing is the core is ALMOST exactly the same as the one in my Master 930, the ALMOST being the funny part because I swapped cores just for fun... problem is the only difference is that of coarse the keyway on the dimple lock is perpendicular to the bible DUH! and just the opposite on the Master 930 core so when I stupidly dropped the master core in the dimple lock and snapped the shackle shut what I ended up with was a locked padlock where the keyway is already at the stops on the anti-drill plate making it absolutely impossible to turn the key and quite awkward to pick as you couldn't tension the keyway from the top or bottom because of the stops on the anti-drill plate and so had to tension it from somewhere in the middle LOL(and these of coarse are also all serrated pins). Anyway I managed to get it picked and swap the cores back again.

[scorpiac]

lockedin, have you been able to pick yours yet? I haven't actually picked the dimple core yet. This is my first dimple lock, I actually bought it after reading your post because I figured it would be a good introduction to picking dimple locks since it only has 5 pins. I have been working with a home made dimple pick somewhat modeled after one of the souber picks.

Phil.

[lockedin]

lockedin, have you been able to pick yours yet?

I have not! I only used a little effort though. Basically I turned a regular pick on its side. If I had some souber picks, or a matador rake you know I would be going at it with more fervor.

[v12v12]

Hey I've been searching Ebay for a nice lock, but I've never seen anything like that turn up... what search parameters did you use? How would you get that key duped? I would like to get one of these types of locks, but getting extra keys would be a nightmare if I ever lost one etc.... That's why I'm cautious about dimple/abloy type keys. Getting new one's is just too expensive...?

[scorpiac]

I actually didn't get mine on ebay I bought it from here

http://cripedistributing.com/yale-m-14.html Prices are pretty good.

[greyman]

I'll third noah's remark - it looks a lot like an American pin tumbler lock cylinder with the keyway broached across at right angles to the pins.

[selim]

Sorry for posting on this forum,but I've been searching for 20 minutes for this:can anyone tell me how to pick-to the control sheer line for a yale ic core? I have done it with corbin(7 times opened before control sheer line),best the same thing,just luck.This yale is killing me 2hours and nothing,can open the lock,but can't get it out of the lever.It will sit on the bench till I can get it -to nice of a lock to drill- it's just the first yale ic core that I have seen.It's a big bastard of a cylinder though,I can get in there and play very easy.I think it's a cg keyway,but not sure,have to get to work tommorrow to dig in!!