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by ryanhaynie » 17 Mar 2007 17:10
hi i ve been wondering if picks are easier or are rakes i cant tell the differnce my times are about the same any 1 got suggestions
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by Tygart » 17 Mar 2007 17:16
Hey ryanhaynie welcome to the site hope you have fun here there are a lot of really nice and smart people here.
Picks and Rakes all depend on what you like. And it also depends on the lock. Some locks are better with single pin picking. Others you can just rake.
Also if you have a lock that has a spool pin, you will most likely need to use a pick and pick it pin by pin.
Hope that helps
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by Eyes_Only » 17 Mar 2007 18:53
Raking is easier but it's not guaranteed to work 100% of the time. Some locks just wont open through the raking method. Pin by pin is more time consuming and methodical but if you know what you are doing you can pretty much get the lock open every single time. Pin by pin is the method I first learned on and that is the technique I recommend for any beginner at lockpicking.
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by CVScam » 18 Mar 2007 6:04
I started out just opening locks using rakes. I had 3 rakes and I could open a few master locks I had and the kwicksets I had access to. I then tried to open a 5 pin corbin and finally figured out that a rake was not going to open it. I then made some hooks and started to really learn to feel each pin setting. I only really enjoy picking something that gives a challange so I try to repin my locks so they can't be easily raked open.
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by JackNco » 18 Mar 2007 8:33
You may find raking easier to start with but you need top learn how to SPP if you are serious about lock picking at all. you will find raking wont open more challenging locks as you move on to them. but raking has its place as well. a quick rake will often set a couple of pins at the start so you can eliminate them from the pins you need to pick one at a time.
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by helloman » 18 Mar 2007 11:17
it depends what kkind of lock like a padlick is good with just a rake a doorknob or deadbolt is good to rake then pick
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by dmux » 18 Mar 2007 14:56
just like they said above, some rakes will open a lock like if it was the key other times it just wont open the lock at all
and sometimes you just get lucky with a rake once and it may take you longer next time
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by Jason13 » 19 Mar 2007 17:17
Raking occurs when the company have made a lock with say pin stacks that are not much of for example
75485 Rakes easy
On the other hand this pin stack would be a bugger to pick
94949 - Pin pick
Also its hard to rake sometimes when the lock is a good make
GEGE, Zone,
I hope ive helped the odd newb understand why some locks cant be raked.
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by Jason13 » 19 Mar 2007 17:20
98989 - Would rake easy
that should be more easyier to understand lol
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by Knows-Picker » 21 Mar 2007 0:23
well, spp is the way to learn in the begining, but once you know what you are doing, then you will decide based on your history with those locks. Personally I start off raking and give it a good 2-3 minutes of seeing if it will open to one of my rakes, but if it doesn't open in 3 minutes, then it is time to single pin pick and get it open.
I hear what you are saying.....that doesn't mean I agree with you....Just that I am nodding my head to placate you and silence your futile attempts to win the argument.
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by SmokieD » 21 Mar 2007 0:39
Rakes dont require to much skill at all. SPP picking is an acquired skill which involves patience, and deeper knowledge of a lock.
Anyone can stick a rake in lock and go in and out real fast. It is less of a skill in my opinion and more luck.
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by Knows-Picker » 21 Mar 2007 1:20
Rakes dont require to much skill at all. SPP picking is an acquired skill which involves patience, and deeper knowledge of a lock.
Anyone can stick a rake in lock and go in and out real fast. It is less of a skill in my opinion and more luck
Agreed, but sometimes it is more impressive when someone hand you a lock, and you rake it in less then a second and hand it back. While yes it is a good bit of luck, there is some skill with being able to handle the tension wrench properly, but there is nothing that is as good as the look on the face of the person that just saw what they thought to be a movie moment.
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by ThereAreNoSecrets » 21 Mar 2007 11:02
Well, that prompts an interesting question in and of itself. Why do we pick locks? Do we do it to be impressive? For the thrill of gaining access to something secure to most other people? For the chicks?
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by Knows-Picker » 21 Mar 2007 11:28
I do it for the world wide recognition, the un-godly amount of money, the chicks for sure, the pursuit of world domination, not to mention it is good for my parcheesie and chineese checkers game.
Seriously though, I pick locks as a form or relaxation. It helps me get rid of my stress from the day. But it is still good to be impressive once in a while.
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by ObiWonShinobi » 25 Mar 2007 8:10
Sometimes a random rake will JUST HAPPEN to hit the right pins.
its almost like an actual key sometimes.
I've had this happen most often with a snake rake.......aka a wave or a "W"
but sometimes its faster to just lift each pin.
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