plug spinner trick

[lockedin]

The picking/raking was atrocious. The trick was cool and unprecedented on this site since I have been here. Yes, it can potentially damage a tension wrench, but may keep you out of a bind in case you forget your plug spinner. Enough said.

[hesevil]

As seems to be the popular consensus, it's a crude pick but a cool trick (haha, that rhymes). Shrubs, you said "If someone taught that kid to pick like that that person should be shot" and that's awesome and funny... because it's true. The spinner does work though, I'd done essentially the same thing using a rubber band to snap the wrench back. That's a new twist though, especially when you consider it's done with only tools you already have.

[jimmysmith]

No the guy in the vedio is no one i know.. I wish had some way to make some videos... but i dont .. those were not my fat little arms.. lol.. my arms are skinny and completely tattooed..

I agree the picking is ugly.. but spinner trick is something i never seen.. and really thats all I was pointing out..

Just thought might come in handy.....but unless we know about it. it wont.

Didnt mean to be so snappy... well it did... but I appologize..

[le.nutzman]

Saw this and while i agree everyone is entitled to their opinions, i will point something out, it's about the end result. When you're out on a job what's your desired end result? Did this video produce that end result, yes. Was the style unorthidox, yes. I'm sure at one point in people who picked locks were looked at in very much the same way, unorthidox.

I've not been here in some time just because of things like this. I've seen alot of posts bashing, flaming and what not because someone tries to come up with a new spin on something and gets shot down. Instead of bashing people for trying tothink outside the box since alot of people on this site know more about lockpicking, why not educate. Isn't that what we're all ultimate here to do, learn?

Don't mean to make this post sound like a eulogy, but really, it's been said time and time again throughout the posts and forums. One person tries something and due to lack of experience, knowledge or access to resources, or even out of just plain forgetfullness or not knowing, after they post people light them up. It's not what you're saying, it's how it's said and coming across to the respondent. What if that person was a rocket scientist who had a wealth of knowledge and because of the way their information was received and criticized by us on this site, never put it out again for us to have? We lost potentially useful knowledge that in the end might have made our jobs/hobby that much easier or that much more fun to do. Sure, someone else might think of the same thing and post it, later. But what if you needed it now. There's alot of what ifs and that's the point, you just don't know.

I realize that there's alot of people who are way more well versed in this area than i am and in alot of areas i'm out of my league, but on the people skills side of the house, from your posts and comments on how you treat others from what i've seen after reading almost every post on this site that i could read, you leave alot to be desired.

[horsefeathers]

Saw this and .................... i will point something out, it's about the end result.

While it works, the main point was that if you paid a locksmith to come out to gain you access to your property, would you be happy paying him for the shambles you just witnessed, and not be at all worried that your lock was damaged internally as a result! You may be in, but at what cost!

regards[/b]

[Shrub]

Nutzman, interesting post i quickly skimmed over as weve heard it all before,

The result was not gained, the lock gave way so it didnt have to put up with any more of that abuse lol

Seriously though, NO the end result was not achieved as the end result in this hobby or trade is to open a lock NDE,

Now you say you are a bit wet behind the ears so i will explain this a little,

That lock after that 'attack' can never be used on a door, if the lock was already on a door it would have to be changed,

At the very least the lock would have to be stripped down and all the pins and springs swapped out but i expect on somthing as rough as that the actual keyway would also be burred up and seriously marked meaning that the plug also needs to be changed,
I then summise that the extremity of the attack along with the flicking of the wrench at the end could presumeably also have damaged the lock body where the keyway is open at the bottom, if its just scratched to a mess and its a practice lock then it will be fine but again you cant do it to a customers door and you cant put it on a door (not that a played with lock should EVER be repackaged and sold to a customer),

So in essance, in the short time that video lasted he managed to scrap a lock and probably damage his tools, thats not flaming nor is it noob bashing they are purely factual observations,
We are not flaming nor are we doing the OP down as the OP says it wasnt him, the person in the video isnt yet known but i would be supprised if they are a member of this site but if they are they need serious help and some good luck (there you go jimmysmith, i said it again),

We are angry though and quite rightly as with all the information on the internet right now and this site alone having thousands of posts there is simply no excuse for doing that to a lock,

If someone wants to go and buy a set of picks and a lock having NO previous knowledge and have no idea about what to do and then start messing around then thats fine but please please dont then make a video of the mess and post it up on somthing like youtube (infact dont post any picking vids on you tube is my opinon), it does nothing for the person damageing the lock (i refuse to call it picking any longer) as it shows him up as being useless but the more important bigger picture is that every single thing posted on those sort of places is a window to our hobby, we dont need videos like that making us look unprofessional and useless,

Ive said it before and ill say it again, that kid needs to give up or get some training, regardless of age, sex or brain capacity i am sure that person is the worse display of so called picking ive ever seen, i could go to any old peoples home and give a rake and a lock to an alzheimers patient and they would have it open quicker and gentler,

The video shown above moves everything back a step not forward a step imho, i just hope its not seen that much or taken as a voice of locksport in any way,

[Shrub]

Forget all the above guys, im sorry,

I didnt realise that this was infact reatfasts training video,

[horsefeathers]

Forget all the above guys, im sorry,

I didnt realise that this was infact reatfasts training video,

Reactfast do training ??????????????????????

I never knew!

[Shrub]

I will say that if the person in that video is on this site and reading this i mean no offence to you personally, i apprechiate your haveing a go and tryed,

If you want toi pm me i will teach you how to rake properly which will be easy on the lock and open them quicker in some instances,

[CVScam]

I watched the video then I looked at some of his other videos and I ran across this one called "R.I.P pick graveyard". I counted 14 bent and broken picks in that video, I have broken or bent a total of 4-5 picks since I started picking years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-X5mZ5yYYw

[Fackifiknow]

Its good to see a moderator blatantly flame someone of a lower skill level.

[butterboy]

this guys about to break something.
After all that stabing he just go pissed off and bent that wrench back and let go he just go lucky, lucky he didnt poke out his eye. lol

[Shrub]

Its good to see a moderator blatantly flame someone of a lower skill level.

Being so new you probably havent seen a flame from me, but i assure you when i do flame you will know about it, this thread hasnt even warmed the toes of his socks yet,

I have also offered to help the individual,

Being mod bears no resemblence to the quality of picking displayed on that video nor have i posted a flame, i suggest ive contributed more to this thread than you have because if someone doesnt know their faults they will always be faulty, your post had no bearing on the OP nor was it factual,



CVScam,
Yup, no supprise there, it must cost him a fortune in tools,

I have broken two picks and bent a pick in the time ive been gogin and im a lockie as well so use them daily,
I broke two majestic hooks because A) the lock was siezed and i use the majestics for these sorts of locks and B) the majestics are poor quality picks and i dont like them so am not gentle enough with them, i use them as a screwdriver and everything,

The broken bits then went on to give themselves to be made into by pass tools which have been great ever since,

The bent one is a SO rake as used in the above video, its slightly bent or rippled but not bent over or un-useable, theres just a bit of a waver down the side,

[quickpicks]

holy crap that guy sucks lol
cool trick but im sticking with the mouse trap plug spinner

[Lynx40]

Guess I missed the whole "trick". I started watching it, and after about 20-30 seconds, just had to look away, it was so bad. Then, by the time I looked back, it was over.

Couldn't bring myself to start the clip over again.