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What would be a hard pin combo for me to pick on a Kwikset?

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What would be a hard pin combo for me to pick on a Kwikset?

Postby DarkEyes » 23 Mar 2007 20:45

How would I best key a kiwkset deadblot so it would be hard for me to pick.. (ie. tall pins at the back, or front?) I have made a couple picks and have been able to do this lock in 1-2 min, with differant pin configurations.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 23 Mar 2007 20:48

Change the name of the lcok :lol:

You can add standard schlage spools with cuts lik 17261 that i guess would make it a fair bit better, the problem is there machined so poor the tollerences are your problem more than the pinning buy an assa :twisted:
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Postby DarkEyes » 23 Mar 2007 20:54

Thanks for the reply. I'll look at getting some better locks. I have a Master Lock #3 That I use too, it's diffucalt for me to pick pin by pin but I can rake it ok..
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Postby Chucklz » 23 Mar 2007 20:56

Don't go from a kwikpick to an ASSA! I wouldn't even bother repinning a kwikset for a challenge. It would be much more fun to pick up a Schlage, and pick that. Rim/mortice cylinders are cheap on ebay.
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Postby mfschantz » 23 Mar 2007 20:57

If you're currently short on spool pins, you can put shorter pins directly behind larger pins. The idea is that you'll have to set the shorter pin (further back) without pushing up so far on the longer pin that it passes shear and blocks the cylinder from turning. I hope that's clear enough.
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Postby DarkEyes » 23 Mar 2007 21:03

mfschantz wrote:If you're currently short on spool pins, you can put shorter pins directly behind larger pins. The idea is that you'll have to set the shorter pin (further back) without pushing up so far on the longer pin that it passes shear and blocks the cylinder from turning. I hope that's clear enough.

Thanks Thats what I was looking for.. Ill be getting some better locks once I make some better picks.
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Postby mfschantz » 23 Mar 2007 21:06

No problem. As Chucklz said, you'll get on much better with a Schlage. My first practice lock was a Kwikset. I could pick it and repin it then pick it again over and over. I didn't really learn anything until I got my first Schlage though. It seems to me that you can actually feel more with a Schlage, and that helped my visualization more than anything else.
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Postby freakparade3 » 23 Mar 2007 21:13

I have picked several Schlage locks and after a long time not being able to get them I found they require very light tension. Keep it in mind if you go from a Kwikset to a Schlage.
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Postby DarkEyes » 23 Mar 2007 21:15

mfschantz wrote:No problem. As Chucklz said, you'll get on much better with a Schlage. My first practice lock was a Kwikset. I could pick it and repin it then pick it again over and over. I didn't really learn anything until I got my first Schlage though. It seems to me that you can actually feel more with a Schlage, and that helped my visualization more than anything else.

I'll be looking for new locks tomarrow.. I was able to pick this setup in under 5 min...
This masterlock #3 is still troublesom.. I think this the tourk and my crapy tools...
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Postby DarkEyes » 23 Mar 2007 21:31

DarkEyes wrote:[I think this the tourk

I Think it's the tork
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Postby Shrub » 24 Mar 2007 7:36

Can i ask why you put that as a title?

You are lucky it didnt get caught by the auto spam filters,
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Postby UWSDWF » 24 Mar 2007 7:45

my guess would be that he felt that since he was new and that this might be a common question and so he was submitting to us that he is new and sorry for asking before asking
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Postby Shrub » 24 Mar 2007 10:20

Darkeyes, your not spamming, ive edited your title,

If you dont like it and want it how it was please pm me and ill put it back as was,
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