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My NEW Enemy_Who can defeat it?

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My NEW Enemy_Who can defeat it?

Postby v12v12 » 3 Apr 2007 14:42

Okay here's my new toy that I played around with for a good 30min and he's NOT very friendly, now gives much feed back... anyone have any tips?

http://i11.tinypic.com/43fg12w.jpg

Pic too big, turned to link,
E=Mc^2 = busted!
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Postby UWSDWF » 3 Apr 2007 14:58

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Postby v12v12 » 3 Apr 2007 15:21

UWSDWF wrote:get an easier lock


http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/


Argh... Yeah I've read that previously over and over :-( guess I'm not ready yet... there has to be a way! BTW- know of a link that shows the proper spacing for the tensioner, I'm going to make one from some brick strap stock...

thanks for the reply
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Postby NIC » 3 Apr 2007 15:55

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Postby v12v12 » 3 Apr 2007 16:47

WOWO!!!! 100% what I need!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Thanks a lot guys I'm going to get right on it!

Aside from security pins and what not... I'm bound determined to pick this lock and or bump it one to see if it can actually be done. I just have a very hard time believing that BEST with the little control key spacers is end the top end spectrum of security (minus security pins) and is just as difficult or more difficult than say a nasty pinned American Lock... course that's me being a lil' naive... :mrgreen:
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Postby Wolfe » 3 Apr 2007 19:59

aww theres a good time there boy
have fun
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 3 Apr 2007 21:18

I made the tensions in like 3 minutes a pop, but i was luck to have just the core to makes the spacing was no bigger.

This may help make a tensioner with 4 6 and 7 teeth, it will cover every thing.

I must admit bests are not rediculously hard, I find the falcon the skyler sent my hard, the opperating sheer is fine, but the control shear is a pain in the arse.

Good luck buddy, if oyu would like I will post a few pictures of the wrenches i made, I have oyu indentical keyway so they could offer somer help.
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Postby Stray » 3 Apr 2007 23:16

I've weakened 2 of my picks attempting to pick one of those SOBs. Believe me If I finally do break one of my picks in there the lock will open... ohhhh the lock will open....
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Re: My NEW Enemy_Who can defeat it?

Postby Shrub » 4 Apr 2007 8:11

v12v12 wrote:anyone have any tips?


Crop your pics and resize them,

Use photobucket because tiny pic deletes the image after 30 days and reassigns the link so in 30 days your new challenge will become a picture of a goat :wink:

As regards the lock, good luck :P
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bestpicking

Postby raimundo » 4 Apr 2007 10:32

best locks are mostly pickable, some will be very difficult, but you can open most of them with persistence, and don't break off a pick, you cannot break a pick if you are feeling the pins, the force used to break one is too much to even feel a pin with. Many new pickers think its a setback when they are picking, and they hear pins dropping back, its not, if those pins didn't drop back, you would have had to release tension and let them go, just because you have a pin up, it may be binding, or it may be set, but in the wrong order for easy picking so it will fall back and you will set another pin and then reset it, and it may be in the right order this time. (there is no specific order for pins to set, it may change from time to time in the same lock, as a small amount of dirt in one of the pin collumns can change that. pick gently, and don''t feel bad if the pins fall back, they are easy to push up again.
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Re: bestpicking

Postby NIC » 4 Apr 2007 10:41

raimundo wrote:best locks are mostly pickable, some will be very difficult, but you can open most of them with persistence, and don't break off a pick, you cannot break a pick if you are feeling the pins, the force used to break one is too much to even feel a pin with. Many new pickers think its a setback when they are picking, and they hear pins dropping back, its not, if those pins didn't drop back, you would have had to release tension and let them go, just because you have a pin up, it may be binding, or it may be set, but in the wrong order for easy picking so it will fall back and you will set another pin and then reset it, and it may be in the right order this time. (there is no specific order for pins to set, it may change from time to time in the same lock, as a small amount of dirt in one of the pin collumns can change that. pick gently, and don''t feel bad if the pins fall back, they are easy to push up again.


Ya but a false set pin (spool),you need to put a certain amount of pressure on the pick !?
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Postby v12v12 » 4 Apr 2007 12:57

As nasty as THIS??? lol insane AM 700 I believe

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w54/l1l_mike_l1l/IMG_3670.jpg

There is this BEST lock that I saw a few days ago in the gym that had serrated front pin and is identical to the one that I have... It must be a monster! Then again the hasp that it was on was cheap as pot metal! I don't get the lapse in security... rediculous lock and cheap Hasps, hinges and exposed screws etc... Oh well soon as I make a SFIC tensioner I'll get to this.

BTW---
Good luck buddy, if oyu would like I will post a few pictures of the wrenches i made, I have oyu indentical keyway so they could offer somer help.


Yes please do... I'll be using a dremel to do it, since I cannot find any small files atm...

Thanks everyone for posting (shrub, noted thanks).
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Postby Shrub » 4 Apr 2007 16:36

No worries, you can host video and pics and control exactally what and where things go, if someone copies a link for a video youve posted simply change the link etc,

Can i just suggest you 'make my album private' it means that no-one can flick through all your stuff :wink:
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Postby Chucklz » 4 Apr 2007 23:32

v12v12

I have the SFIC tension tools if you would like to have a look at them. These locks can be a pain, or they open very quickly. As for the stuff on crypto.com, Matt teaches at Penn, so perhaps we should corner him one day eh?
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