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by JackNco » 5 Apr 2007 0:08
I forgot you were originally asking specifically the everest lock. As far as i know this is an advanced topic (although i wouldn't consider it a high security lock) this means we can not talk about opening techniques.
Buy Google is your friend. there are many breakdowns of this lock online and this lock has very few "security features" once u can open a 6pin schlarge you arnt far off an everest.
Then again as UWSDWF said. you need to pick a standard Schlarge first. I hope u stick around if your intentions are in fact good.
All the best
John
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by Chucklz » 5 Apr 2007 0:10
Check out the FAQ & General Information Section. There you will find stickies giving all sorts of information on picking etc. Additionally, a Search would yield excellent results. My search for Everest yielded this gem:
viewtopic.php?t=17633&start=0
After reading that, read this:
viewtopic.php?t=16325&highlight=everest
Basically the check pin is just another pin you have to pick. You can either make a special tool to hold it up while you pick the cylinder, or pick it in whatever order it binds.
Oh and for your accusation of our laziness... we aren't too lazy to write it, we are too lazy to write it again.
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by JackNco » 5 Apr 2007 0:27
right as its apparently not advance material i will add this.
the check pin will almost always bind as the first pin, sometimes as the last but it is apparently rare to find one that binds half way through picking the main pins.
I find it easiest to use a slimline half diamond to set this "check" pin. The problem you will have with these is that it is difficult to keep constant tension and leave a gap for setting the check pin without the wrench slipping and closing the gap you leave beneath it.
John
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by Eyes_Only » 5 Apr 2007 1:24
I get the feeling that all these numerous "OMG I need help" people and those with nonsensical user names are all just 2 or 3 different people pulling the same stunt over and over again. Maybe because they have no etiquette, too lazy to search and have absolutely no social skills at all.
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by raimundo » 5 Apr 2007 11:45
is everyone having a bad day? why don't we just tell him, that lock has a simple checkpin, no sidebar, its a common schlage lock with one extra pin and that pin is a sure thing, just lift it and its set, a squared type of toothpick could set that pin,
I understand that beating down the newbies is part of the whole thing, but lets not all pile on. these newbie questions are where some of you who want to get into the advanced section can help out and make a good post.
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by MaximumCheese » 5 Apr 2007 15:58
To The_Krug:
You have to understand how it looks when you come here and your first post asks how to pick a high-security lock. I sympathize with you; you're interested in picking a certain type of lock; you may already have some knowhow, and want to expand your horizons. Asking a crowd of hobbyists in your first post is not the way to go about getting the information you need. Try to learn about the lock first so that you may figure out how to compromise it, engage in discussions on the forums, but don't just ask how to pick a certain lock, because it looks like you're just trying to learn how to break into a place.
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by The_Krug » 5 Apr 2007 19:33
sorry guys if i exploded or anything i was having a bad day because i had to call the locksmith again.
anyways i realize i might be wrong about the type of schlage it is. i'll send a picture asap for you guys to identify it, because for some reason i can't find a picture online of what it looks like, or what model it is. the closest i can get are some models of Sargents.
i also found another lock around my house: another schlage, but no extra pins, just standard pins. the problem is when i start to pick it, some of the pins will go easy, but others will lock at the top and i have to ruin the progress by resetting it to get these locked pins back down so they won't stop the cylinder from turning. i think i'm doing something wrong, but i'm confused because i picked the kwikset the same way. it might just be because it's a schlage, but i might be doing the process wrong. you don't need to tell me the process if you don't want, but tell me what i might be doing wrong, based on your experiences.
i'd love to hear from you
thanks, raimundo.
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by Chucklz » 5 Apr 2007 21:03
Send a picture of the key as well. Look carefully, does the key or the cylinder say PRIMUS on it ?
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by MaximumCheese » 5 Apr 2007 22:34
another schlage, but no extra pins, just standard pins. the problem is when i start to pick it, some of the pins will go easy, but others will lock at the top and i have to ruin the progress by resetting it to get these locked pins back down so they won't stop the cylinder from turning.
I believe your Schlage has security pins in it. What this means is that most pin tumbler locks have solid upper pins, but yours has spool-shaped pins, which inhibit casual picking attempts by causing false sets. Security pins deter picking, but don't make it impossible by any means. When picking security pins, the name of the game is a good tension wrench. For this specific lock, I've found that a spring-loaded wrench is the way to go. You can either buy one of these or make it from street sweeper brush. I opt to make my own so I can control the amount of spring tension. Also, picking security pins requires a slightly more delicate feel, so after acquiring a proper wrench, it's just a matter of practice.
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by raimundo » 7 Apr 2007 10:46
practice, and some reading with comprehension, look for a diagram that you can understand, the little bit about slow tension release and allowing the plug to counterrotate, not worrying about the pins that drop. Yeah, practice and later, a bit of understanding.
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by Jryanruch » 16 Apr 2007 14:12
These guys are just jacking you up. You can pick one of those with a coathanger in seconds. 
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by JackNco » 16 Apr 2007 14:26
Jryanruch wrote:These guys are just jacking you up. You can pick one of those with a coathanger in seconds. 
.......................WOW
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by Jryanruch » 16 Apr 2007 14:34
Aww. crap.. I just busted my coathanger off in the lock and now I'm screwed...
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by zeke79 » 16 Apr 2007 14:41
Jryanruch wrote:Aww. crap.. I just busted my coathanger off in the lock and now I'm screwed...
*zeke points finger and laughs  !
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by JackNco » 16 Apr 2007 15:02
Oh thank god u were joking
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