What is a Bogota?

[ghostman]

THis might be a stupid question but what exactly is the function of a bogota tool and wats the big hype about it.i dont really see why everyone is nuts for raimundos tool. It would be great though if ray could explain a bogota to me.

Thanks

[Title edited by MBI so it's now useful.]

[UWSDWF]

it's a pick/rake that slaughters most locks due to the design and the manner of use

[ghostman]

but how is it usedit looks too wide to fit in a lock

[ghostman]

sorry to double post but could you explain the manner of its use. basically the technique.

[digital_blue]

For best results, you use a slightly jittery raking/rocking motion, sometimes accompanied by a bouncing of the tension wrench.

db

[ghostman]

do you haev both parts in at the same time?

[UWSDWF]

you use one as a tension wrench....


and why do you think a streetsweeper bristle is too wide for a lock?

[fizzmahon]

trevor you beat me to it. anyways read the MIT Guide to lockpicking. If you dont even know about a tension wrench you wont understand what the bogata or any pick/rake for that matter does. The MIT Guide is stickied in the FAQ thread along with 2 other good pieces of reading material.

http://www.lysator.liu.se/mit-guide/mit-guide.html

[ghostman]

i never said i didnt know what a tension wrench is, jsut a bogota i dont know what it was. Sorry i didnt know you use one as a wrench..

[Anero]

all i can say is order a set from rai, his tools are amazing.

[fizzmahon]

ive had the opportunity to use them and they are very good. the work put into them is exceptional. get a set if you can.

[raimundo]

the bogota rake has three narrow peaks, and two wide valleys, when moved quickly under light tension, the pins ride up the sides of the valleys and jump off the peaks, three at a time, and this will usually set most or all the pins, You can take a bogota rake and put it in a dismounted plug with bottom pins in it, and by carefully moving the pick back and forth and tilting it, forward and back, you can usually see a sweet spot where the pick just held in the core will set three or more pins to the shear line, this may have an exception with some very difficult bittings, but I haven't come across it, I wasn't looking for it, so I didn't set up a core with all long pins or some such.

[ghostman]

ok thanks just what i wanted to know

[TorontoTonto]

I have respect for Raimundo in that he found the perfect combo of peak height and valley space and depth, but i think people freak out a little too much about the picks

and for the tension wrench on the end of the tool idea, too simple to deserve any credit, its basically the same as a tension wrench and a double sided pick.


I respect you Raimundo, but i dont like some of your ill given fame

[rrrrrrkevin]

i have to admit they look akward but ive read so much good about them,i would sure like to try a set but ive never even seen a street sweeper bristle..just from what ive read i wouldnt take from the credit hes gotten because apparently theyre really nice