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snap gun info

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snap gun info

Postby kevincadogan » 17 May 2004 22:42

i was wondering who here,uses a snap gun?do u think its good for picking deadbolts?thanks
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Using a pick gun

Postby Romstar » 17 May 2004 22:50

I have a several type of pick guns. I use them on the job when frustration sets in, or I want to try something different.

They aren't the best thing for the lock, and they certainly aren't going to help you get any better at picking.

Sometimes, the gun just plain doesn't work. Then, its back to plain old pin by pin picking.

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Postby Quin » 18 May 2004 1:38

I second everything just said.
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Postby technik » 18 May 2004 1:46

...but sometimes it works after two clicks. It really seems to be luck (if you have a considerate amount of understanding and skill with the tool)

Ive got two, one that smacks hard and one that is softer (although they both have adjustments, ones spring is much weaker than the other) Its good having both (if you need to get into someone elses lock quickly, use strong click, if yours and have time, use soft click)

U dont need two, but its good fun and a good learning experienceto have.

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Postby Luke » 18 May 2004 1:49

Where did u get the second one tecknik and what brand ?
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Postby Varjeal » 18 May 2004 9:02

I use snap guns, but I'm a locksmith and often times don't have the luxury of spending a lot of time picking, or I'm just feeling lazy. I have yet to find an undamaged non-high security deadbolt that I couldn't successfully use one on, but it takes some time and practice to really get good with 'em.


I also don't recommend them at ALL for newbies to the hobby, and am working myself on using 'em less and manually picking more. It's a lot more satisfying to perform the task with hand tools. Perhaps one day I'll be good enough that the pick gun will rust and I'll use hand tools soley......

Hey, I can dream, right? ;)
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Postby jason » 19 May 2004 12:19

I use a pickgun when I have to get in quickly and the client isn't looking over my shoulder (does happen even when you ask them to stand back).

If I've got the time or the lock is an unfamiliar one I'll go to manual picks for the feedback as to what's going on.

Please don't think any of us are being obscure or obstructive when we suggest that you learn to pick with handtools first - it'll just make you better with a pickgun
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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Postby kehveli » 19 May 2004 13:29

jason wrote:I use a pickgun when I have to get in quickly and the client isn't looking over my shoulder (does happen even when you ask them to stand back).


Why do you want to keep your methods secret from your curious customers? Or do you want to look professional on their eyes? :P
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Postby Romstar » 20 May 2004 23:15

kehveli wrote:Why do you want to keep your methods secret from your curious customers? Or do you want to look professional on their eyes? :P


Customers come in several different flavours. These are some of the more common.

1. The thankful. These people don't care if you tool 10 minutes, or 10 seconds. They figure you are a locksmith, and you have special tools, techniques, training and it took you a long time to get that good. Plus, they are just thankful to be back in the house, or the car or whatever.

2. The indignant. These people oddly enough tend to be in the higher education, and income bracket for some reason. Doctors, lawyers, etc....
For some reason, your skill, education and talent just isn't worth as much as theirs. They see you open their lock in a minute or under, and they get all weird about paying your fee "for something that was obviously so easy."

3. The frightened. These people can't see a difference between a locksmith and a crook really. If it was so easy for YOU to open the lock, then anyone can do it.
While this often leads to more business in the way of rekeying, or replacing locksets. It often comes with headaches as you have to continually reassure these poor confused soles that what you do takes lots of practice, talent and skill.

There are lots of others of course, but I've always been sort of a basic flavours kinda guy. This would be one of the reasons for keeping the customers from watching you too closely.

Oh, and then you get the curious type. You know the ones I mean right? They basically want you to teach them to be a locksmith right there in the rain on their door step.

It can be annoying sometimes.
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Postby toomush2drink » 21 May 2004 11:20

I think the other reason for keeping it secret from the customers is that its a code of conduct over here in the uk. At the moment the uk locksmith scene isnt licensed so it relys on this code of conduct in general.
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