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by novicelockpicker » 9 Apr 2007 12:34
hey everyone,
I couldn't find a decent article on medeco camlocks....any ideas on which types of pins they use...that would help a lot cause im thinking of buying a few of ebay to try picking.
thanks,
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by nekret » 9 Apr 2007 12:53
medeco's can be a real pain. I've only been able to open mine with 2 pins in it, any more and the sidebar gets me. if you're just starting out you might want to try something easier. As for the camlocks, I'm not sure what kind of pins they use but knowing medeco they probably have a few spools/mushroom drivers and some serrated pins. Although I'm not sure if all medeco cam locks have sidebars I'm willing to bet at least a few models do.
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by Schuyler » 9 Apr 2007 13:12
Depending on what you're ordering, you might find they only have key pins, no drivers at all. Just a sidebar lock. I'd say, if you get them cheap, and they've got a key, buy them so you can take them apart, as you'll learn a lot just from that. otherwise? save your money for something a bit more fitting to your name. Of course, you could just be fooling us, as LockNewbie21 is one of the few people I know who can pick a medeco consistently.
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by novicelockpicker » 9 Apr 2007 14:32
ok...so it really depends on your order...i see...no im pretty consistent at picking ordinary locks...and i do have a normal medeco KIK cylinde from my S&G 831 b so ill give it a try...thanks for the quick reply 
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by linty » 9 Apr 2007 16:28
medeco cam locks, standard or biaxial both use special medeco cam lock pins. there are no top pins, and hence no shear line so to speak. instead of slotted gates in the pins they have holes in the pins that act as gates, which must be raised and rotated properly for the sidebar to push in. the pins themselves have lots of nasty serrations and if it's a m3 camlock there will be a slider blocking the sidebar as well.
if i were you i'd avoid m3 since it will further complicate matters, and buy one camlock only because you'll probably be stuck on it for a very long time.
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by LockNewbie21 » 9 Apr 2007 20:56
I might buy a few off of skyler.
Even if you skill level has not reached them yet, there a terrific envestment.
I have found since I basically only picked medeco's for a month that my tension control and also my Picker imagination (whats going on it the lock has improved)
I would say go for it, even if you can or can't ge one pin they keep you occupied, but like my old medeco and barry the keys, if you get frustrated just put it down and relax and begin again after your nerves are calm and the pins get really funky shapes with aggressive raking.
However best of luck there great locks and WILL improve you abilities and feel.
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by unbreakable » 9 Apr 2007 22:22
i have ten or so medeco switch locks that use the same principle as medeco cam locks, which I would be willing to sell. If anyones interested, PM me, Ill get back to you in a few days, as you may/may not know im takin a bit of a break, I only just stopped in to see whats up and this was one of the first topics I saw...
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by raimundo » 10 Apr 2007 11:28
there are no top pins, as stated above, the sidebar is just a bit different, as it has round studs sticking back into the pin, not the rectangular bit that is in a full size medeco, the pins have round holes in them to accept the round studs, and some will have false round holes that are not deep enough to unlock the lock but are there for pick resistance. Pins must be rotated to meet the hole to the stud and when all five are set, your open.
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by Gordon Airporte » 10 Apr 2007 20:43
raimundo wrote:there are no top pins, as stated above, the sidebar is just a bit different, as it has round studs sticking back into the pin, not the rectangular bit that is in a full size medeco, the pins have round holes in them to accept the round studs, and some will have false round holes that are not deep enough to unlock the lock but are there for pick resistance. Pins must be rotated to meet the hole to the stud and when all five are set, your open.
Thanks rai - I finally got exactly how these work.
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by hellbent1979 » 4 May 2007 15:28
my 51s does have top pins 6 total 2 are mushroom and a sidebar with false shears, can get it every time if I take the 2 mushrooms out, combined with the sidebar its too much
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by Knowthebird » 6 May 2007 11:42
This was an interesting thread. Learned a few things, cool.
Nothing to add, just commenting.
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by jimmysmith » 8 May 2007 12:45
Here's a couple pics of a medeco pin.. you see it has the hole in the side for the sidebar gate to enter...also it has a little peace that protrudes off the side.. not sure whats it for .. it must keep the hole lined up or something.. then of course it had tat chissle tip...and also a couple serrated parts there in the middle.....
I have never has the chance to play with a medeco lock yet.. I dont know that i am ready for all that.. I am still tripping over side bars in general... but all in good time..
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by samfishers » 24 May 2007 20:39
wasent, medeco, only for advenced forums?
watch the weather change
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by LockNewbie21 » 24 May 2007 22:32
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by raimundo » 31 May 2007 8:37
the pins in those photos are not from the type of cam lock I was discribing, they look to be from full size medeco cylinders, the cam lock is smaller, and the ones I have had apart do not have top pins, that first pin in the photo is a bottom pin as it has the chisel tip, but it also has the small post on top of it, which may be for centering a spring on, this may be a different type of cam lock from those I am familiar with, medeco makes changes without consulting me. 
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