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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Apr 2007 10:06

Is that an petroleum based lubricant?
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Postby Boosted_Phoenix » 9 Apr 2007 17:48

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Postby raimundo » 10 Apr 2007 11:41

If you are looking for lube that will not adhere and collect grit, try a bike shop and ask for the chain lube. Bicycle chains are exposed to grit all the time, and enough people are into high end biking these days that a lot of products are made specifically for that market.
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Postby Stray » 10 Apr 2007 19:59

The Cancer causing agents are the solvents used in the product not the product that stays behind.

Jig-a-loo (original) is just silicone spray.
then they have Jig-a-loo graphite extreme
and a couple of other types.

If it doesn't stain clothes then it is the silicone based one. (also good for waterproofing stuff).


So don't inhale the vapors while they are drying and you will be ok... anyways everything according to the state of california seems to cause cancer. :lol:
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Postby Shrub » 10 Apr 2007 22:29

Eyes_Only wrote:Is that an petroleum based lubricant?


No its a ptfe based spray,


The carcinogens are in the propellant in most cases i think, the actual substance being sprayed is rarely as bad,
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Postby Eyes_Only » 11 Apr 2007 1:50

Well I heard on a news report that in the 1800's most people died at 30 or 40. But the life span grew to 60 ot 70 by 1960 and since we have such a longer life span now, we have more chances to develop cancer. And that most people, when you grow older tend to be more likely to develop some sort of cancer anyways. so it's probably not just the chemicals we are exposed to everyday.
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Postby Shrub » 11 Apr 2007 7:05

The world grows into a puss filled scum bag based disease ridden hell hole more every day, getting cancer from the shite in the air we breathe is of little supprise but dis-heartening all the same,
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Postby Charodei » 11 Apr 2007 9:20

Supposedly, a study found that research causes cancer in rats. :)
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Postby Eyes_Only » 11 Apr 2007 10:57

Is that contagious to humans? :wink:
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Postby ComTech » 11 Apr 2007 13:02

Well assuming we are humans, and we make it a point to stay out of research labs, we shouldn't have a problem.
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Postby Legion303 » 12 Apr 2007 7:02

ComTech wrote:Well assuming we are humans


I'm a lab rat, you insensitive clod!

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Postby UWSDWF » 12 Apr 2007 7:05

really? so is Shoes
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jigaloo toxicity

Postby stoobers » 26 Apr 2007 10:29

I used to teach chemistry, so I am familiar with some toxic chemicals.

Goes like this: Anything the comes from petroleum, if not properly refined (in a very careful and expensive way) will carry along bizarre hydrocarbons that can cause cancer.

Anything sourced from ancient carbon deposits, such as coal or petroleum, can concentrate similar toxic hydrocarbons.

Also, any inhaled particulate (dust) can be bad for you, be it wood smoke, wood dust (sawdust), cigarette smoke or coal dust. Coal dust (unprocessed graphite) can cause a disease called "black lung", so yes, graphite in dust format is bad for you. Graphite in solid form (such as the black stuff in your pencil, which never contains lead anymore) isn't particulate so isn't too bad for you - but pencil shavings are (contain both graphite dust and wood dust!)

So the propellant in the can may cause cancer (methane/ethane/propane propellant), as may the actual silicone lubricant itself.

If you want a low-evaporative, non-toxic, low-viscosity, water repelling lubricant (one that you can actually clean with, get on your skin, drink and even breath the aerosol your lungs) try pure orange oil.

It looks like very thin oil like non-aerosol WD-40, or a sub-SAE 0 motor oil, and feels kind of like naptha, xylene or tolulene. It cleans as well as tolulene, which is incredible, as that stuff cleans most anything. Only acetone and MEK seem to clean better. You can also clean plastics with orange oil, which is impossible with acetone/mek/tolulene/xylene.

Don't let anyone tell you orange oil is "citric acid". Citric acid is water soluble, not organic soluble, and can't dissolve effectively in orange oil. Citric acid may dissolve into orange juice, maybe, but not orange oil.

To clean chemistry glass ware is a 2 step process.
#1 rinse with soap and water.
#2 rinse with acetone (nail polish remover)

if still dirty, repeat.
You can't replace step 2 with orange oil, because the orange oil won't evaporate off.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 26 Apr 2007 11:08

This is why I always wear gloves at work. :wink:
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