Drawing Locks? Mortice locks.

[arris]

Ok so im gonna attempt to draw a couple of mortice locks i have lying about, i have drawn my kaba 71111, wich looks alright, anyone got any tips on best ways to do so?

was thinking about photo's aswell so i can make myself a kinda file, so i can see drill points etc...

tryed searching but couldnt find much, also looked through about 10 pages in this sections to see if i had worded it wrong still could be wrong section..

any help mucho appretiated

[digital_blue]

I'm confused..

What's your intention here? Are you drawing (I'm assuming you mean pencil/pen drawing... something like that?) your locks for a record of them? An art piece? 'Cause you have too much time on your hands?

The implication is that you want a record of them... so... um, photos would suffice.

My only other answer is... chalk is pretty.

db

EDIT: Yeah... I've read and re-read the OP. Still confused, unless this is a regional dialect thing... maybe "draw" as in "cut in half" ? *shrugs*

[arris]

the idea is to draw them to scale, so that i have a book with them all in for refrence, but also to measure drill positions for them..

if you get me, so i can look through it an think ahh its 25mm across 30mm up etc..

[JackNco]

well if i was doing it, ide do it on my PC, take a picture and resize it to scale in photo shop. then if u really want to draw it by hand to scale print and trace. thats the easy way.

As for drill points. well thats advanced forums only im afraid.

All the best

[Shrub]

You can draw around your locks and parts,

The normal way is to take a photo and print it out to size, this not only gives you real pics but also all the colours you need,

As for drill points just make a drill template or buy one, no-one measures the door anymore unless its not on the template

[digital_blue]

Ah... ok.. that makes some sense.

Honestly, despite the fact that you said "mortice locks", I was sitting here picturing common cylinders. That's my regional infraction. I guess I can see the point now.

db

[Shrub]

Db, when someone in the uk mentions id its always lever locks lol

[JackNco]

That did confuse me when i first started reading on here. "mortise locks? but thats a tumbler..."

[Shrub]

A mortice is a bottomed hole in a piece of material that is made to accept another object be it a tang on another bit of wood or a lock,

In the uk we generally describe lever locks as mortice locks as they need to be cut into the door,

You call screw in cylinders mortice locks i think as the part they screw into is morticed into the door,

Its a case of both are right but on a international site it can get confuseing lol

[arris]

yeah i think im going to do the scale thing,

tooo late now job for tomorrow,

shrub do you have templates an wich ones do you have? theres some on ebay, but unsure if any good..

[Shrub]

I have no commercial ones to mention,

I dont use them either to be honest,

You will find that if you sit down and just write out the differant id points of the locks that you will know the stuff by the time youve finished and never need it again,

As for bought id books i advise you buy nothing off ebay,

The icl one is supposed to be ok if your after a bought one,

[greyman]

Pencils work best for me LOL, but seriously whachyatalkinbout?

[Shrub]

He is talking about mortice lock id (lever locks) but i can see how it could be strewn as pretty much anything lol,

[arris]

shrub i was looking into the icl one, altho amazon sell it for £140 something

another site i found sold it for £95, but its distributed by sks, so i shall try to find out how much it is through them, or i mite jus do it myself. or a few people at my work, jus have nearly one of every lock on van, if not something new that we keep on stock an they remove it, they keep it for refrence..

sorry for confusion

[raimundo]

Id really like to see some simple technical drawings of some of the older lever padlox, If you are an artist or have mechanical drawing skills, I can think of no better project than to make drawings of interesting and historcal locks, the lever type are simple enough, while the high security modern ones are too complicated and expanded drawings are already available.

If you collected say a hundred of these drawings, and some tech spec on them, you could publish it as a book and it would interest people here as well as collectors from sites like oldlock.com