Criminal Intent?

by **occulum** » 11 Apr 2007 18:24

ewww i REALLY wouldn't want to try to get past airline security with picks...

by **Shrub** » 11 Apr 2007 19:37

Can we please steer away from discussion on how to cenceal picks from the authorities,

If you want your picks abroad with you get the sent over airmail to meet you when you get there then send them back when you leave,

I belive a lot of people simply put them in the luggage and have little problem with it,

by **Krypos** » 11 Apr 2007 22:14

well, i will adhere to shrubs request as best i can, and at the same time, may i share my own findings? good.

using the flat tension wrench and the bottom pick ( the sorta F shaped one ) i can actually keep those in my wallet. both tools are actually only like 2.5 inches long. so i slide them into my wallet where a credit card would go. and then i push them down all the way. its a perfect emergency set. simple. yet everything you might need in a lockout. half diamond serves for spp or raking, and the tension wrench fits every standard type pin tumbler ive played with.

frankly, if anyone is concerned about having to open a lock while out and about, or just want to carry something for emergencies, i would suggest making something like this. it has served me well since i made them.

if anyone is super interested, i can trace and scan them for you or something, though im too lazy right now to get up and turn on my scanner, blah blah blah. pm if you're super interested. i guess.

as for legality, we have a thread with FULL legal laws, etc and all that BS for i think every state and nearly all countries.
edit: after close examination, i have discovered that louisiana is one of the few not covered. my bad.

hmm, well. you can be the first to submit La laws i guess.

i guess ultimately though, if a cop pulls you over, hes not going to search all of your credit card slots for contraband. i hope. only problem would be airports, etc as metal detectors might find them. though i dont suggest sneaking things through security of any kind.

by **Charodei** » 11 Apr 2007 22:22

I'm sorry. I didn't realize my comments would be read that way. Come to think of it, discussing TSA regulations gets close to politics, so I'll drop that as well.

by **occulum** » 12 Apr 2007 0:48

sorry to be a noob, but hey, what does "spp" mean?
i did a search for it and it returned like.... nothing useful, just people mentioning it

by **occulum** » 12 Apr 2007 0:49

edit: err cant edit, sorry for double post, just caught a brain wave, single pin picking?

by **Krypos** » 12 Apr 2007 0:54

occulum wrote:edit: err cant edit, sorry for double post, just caught a brain wave, single pin picking?

bingo.

by **SmokieD** » 12 Apr 2007 1:59

CVScam wrote:I have successfully taken a basic lockpick set into my local courthouse, emergency room, and this afternoon I went into the downtown federal building. I just put my picks into the plastic bin and each time the security guards/police at the metal detector checkpoint just asked me what was in the leather case I said my lockpicks. I just explained I use them at the car lot where I work. The funny part is I had to check a pocket knife at the courthouse but they let me keep my picks.

I think the reason you got away with it, even though it could of been illegal, is that most authorities arent sure on the laws about carrying lockpicks. Its not exactly an every day occurence. And even so you werent using them to break and enter. Most burglaries are the result of a window being smashed or a screwdriver in a door, so authorities arent really looking at lock picks. Just my take.

by **Schuyler** » 12 Apr 2007 7:26

Just check your picks, and locks, if you can. I've taken my picks on carry-on with no problems a couple of times, but locks are a HUGE issue. Every time I go through security with a bunch of locks I get pulled off to the side, bag opened, questions asked, etc. etc.

by **Shrub** » 12 Apr 2007 12:12

You have to understand that on a thread that nessacary doesnt hold any interest for me i still have to read it to look for site rule breeches, on threads i have little to comment on it may be a quick skip through and then make a comment if somthing looked out of place,

I saw airports and getting picks throuhg them and thught i would nip it in the bud,

I think all pickers carry somthing hidden away in their wallet or somthing 'just incase' it never happens but it gives a sense of security thinking your ok if anything should happen,

The last thing i would want is someone to be searching how to smuyggle illegal items through customs and this site coming up and us getting into trouble,

I have to admit i like the james bond school of thought,

Take 3 bits of somthing to make one thing, in this case a pen pocket clasp could be a tension wrench in disguise, perhaps somthing from your watch as a rake etc you get the idea,

An electric pick made by attaching a pen top to a razor, now thats top secret lol

by **Charodei** » 12 Apr 2007 18:14

Shrub wrote:You have to understand that on a thread that nessacary doesnt hold any interest for me i still have to read it to look for site rule breeches, on threads i have little to comment on it may be a quick skip through and then make a comment if somthing looked out of place.

Which is why I appreciate the mods for all the work and time they put into the forums.

by **occulum** » 12 Apr 2007 22:28

alright so, ive decided to pickup some picks from SouthOrd
i want to get a nice set
16+ pieces
handles
can you guys suggest anything
something like http://www.southord.com/images/fullsize/PXS-17.jpg
but without the brass handle, and about that price
i also like the zipper case

thanks

by **Chucklz** » 12 Apr 2007 22:45

The brass handle is generally regarded as not very useful, and the zippered cases... I have one, its nice, but I don't think I've ever opened it or used the picks inside. (I won it, and I dont generally use SO picks.) I would suggest getting the 14 piece SO set or the "Novice" HPC set. Then after a few months of picking, figure out what tools work best for you and then make some to your specifications.

by **occulum** » 13 Apr 2007 0:14

alright just placed an order for http://www.jmlock.com/index.asp?PageAct ... ProdID=348

now ive gotta wait like 3 days D:

by **Krypos** » 13 Apr 2007 16:19

jmlock?

ive never heard of them. but ive also never looked at hpc picks.

am i wrong guys? but usually, its best to order from a place thats heard of, that we have dealt with before.

maybe im wrong, and i just havent heard of them before. ?

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