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by NIC » 13 Apr 2007 18:26
I finally found a lever lock.It's a cheap one(ilco) but i'm sure i'm gonna have plenty of fun with it. Probably easy to pick with bent bicycle spokes. Looking at the key, does it mean that it's a 3 lever?
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s189 ... e001-2.jpg
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by JackNco » 13 Apr 2007 20:14
Yep that looks like a 3 lever to me. that looks brand new as well. If im right on the other side there should be 2 screws, take the cover plate off and have a look, don't be put off by something different they are very simple locks to reassemble.
All the best
John
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by Shrub » 13 Apr 2007 20:19
Yes 3 lever,
You may want to file off the warding on one side for learning with or else the warding may hinder you but try it first,
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by whiteknight38 » 13 Apr 2007 20:23
It's a very simple two-lever mortise lock by Ilco.
You should be able to pick it with simple wire tools, but it will stop an amateur working one handed with a 'button hook' coat hanger wire tool.
The middle "tooth" on the key flips the bolt, and the notch and smaller tooth lifts each of the levers to a point where they clear the lever stop.
The pattern is mirrored on each side of the central tooth, so the key can be used from either side of the door.
Open up the lock, by taking out the philips screw on the other side of the lock, if you haven't done so allready, and you'll see how it works.
Take another shot, and show the room. I'm sure there are people who'd like to see the inside.
I doubt there are more than a handful of key changes available for this series. I have one in storage, with a key marked H22, but I'll bet the first 2 is bogus, and I'd be quite surprised if there are more than ten different keys around.
(If anyone knows different, let me know.)
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by Shrub » 13 Apr 2007 20:29
Ah well if the bolt thrower is in the middle that explains the extra cuts,
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by JackNco » 13 Apr 2007 20:31
OK now i wanna see pics. im sure thats a 3 lever, ide put money on it.
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by JackNco » 13 Apr 2007 20:33
Shrub wrote:Ah well if the bolt thrower is in the middle that explains the extra cuts,
That seems like an odd way 2 make a lock?
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by Shrub » 13 Apr 2007 20:34
Its not very common on newer locks but is out there non the less,
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by whiteknight38 » 13 Apr 2007 20:55
When he shoots the lock opened up, you'll be surprised at how primitive it is. Just a bunch of stamped metal parts, and cheap springs. The lock bears no relation to European mortise locks, and no one in their right mind would use one in an entrance function. They basically act as privacy locks, on bedrooms, or sheds, and the like. (One simple level of security up from the old single lever locks they were designed to retrofit.)
The cost is in the ten to fifteen dollar range at hardware stores.
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by JackNco » 13 Apr 2007 21:26
we have some cheap locks here as well. i have some that lookidentical not 3 feet from me.
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by raimundo » 14 Apr 2007 11:52
that is most likely intended as an interior lock, not a front door lock, It would be used in the kind of mansion that would go for the traditional bit key, I would picture doors made of hardwood and wainscoating around the rooms, not a tract house in disturbia,
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by NIC » 14 Apr 2007 12:35
Yes it is a very cheap lock. And like whiteknight said, pretty primitive.But hey that's what i could find here. By the way it's a 2 lever. Now who is going to send me a real one from England??
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by JackNco » 14 Apr 2007 13:17
pm sent
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by NIC » 14 Apr 2007 14:48
I've been looking at the lock and i don't see how i could pick it with a simple wire!!??Because i would have to put tension on the bolt thrower and then pick the two levers!!humm ?? 
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