Cylinder turns but doesn't unlock

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 20:14

Just a quick question. I was working a normal Schlage door lock with a rake and the cylinder turned, but it didn't unlock the door. I tried it again and the same thing happened. Wassup with that? Any ideas?

by **Shrub** » 13 Apr 2007 20:21

Yes, this hapens when you pick locks on a door,

It breaks somthing inside and stops the lock working properly, the more you do it the more of the strip breaks and the lock will fail a lot sooner than the last time you picked it,

I suggest you step away from the door before you break it properly and get yourself a practice lock,

Due to the ethics of our hobby we make it a point not to help people picking locks in use or not their own, im not saying this isnt your own lock but it is surely in use,

It can produce some harrowing consequences when a lock fails so please take this as some freindly advice,

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 20:28

Thanks for the response, but what is actually happening inside the lock? The cylinder shouldn't turn if all the pins aren't in line and if the cylinder turns shouldn't it unlock? Draw me a visual picture of what's actually happening.

by **Shrub** » 13 Apr 2007 20:32

Shrub wrote:Due to the ethics of our hobby we make it a point not to help people picking locks in use or not their own, im not saying this isnt your own lock but it is surely in use,

If it is stopping at 180' you are letting the top pins spring into the bottom of the keyway,

If it is a strong lockset you may need harder tension,

The lock may already be broken,

If it is only turning a few degrees your hitting security pins,

Ok you happy now ive broken my ethics :cry:

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 20:39

You're not breaking any ethics....it's my own lock. This had never happened to me before and I want to understand the physics of what's happening inside the lock. This is how we learn. Thanks

by **Shrub** » 13 Apr 2007 20:44

Shrub wrote: Due to the ethics of our hobby we make it a point not to help people picking locks in use or not their own, im not saying this isnt your own lock but it is surely in use,

by **freakparade3** » 13 Apr 2007 20:47

bmmeup wrote:You're not breaking any ethics....it's my own lock. This had never happened to me before and I want to understand the physics of what's happening inside the lock. This is how we learn. Thanks

It may be your lock but it can have bad consequences. Shrub wrote a little essay about this a few days back. It was about broken locks and burning to death. Scary stuff, but totally possible. Listen to Shrub, he is wise. He is somewhat of a god here, he holds the power. We mere mortals bow to him.

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 20:48

Geez....Don't have a heart attack :lol:

Speaking lock physics...if the cylinder turned, why didn't it engage the cam and spring?

by **lunchb0x** » 13 Apr 2007 20:51

are you picking it the same direction that you use the key to unllock it? does it have a snib on the back or a push button

by **Shrub** » 13 Apr 2007 20:52

Its broken,

Without pics its hard to tell,

Maybe the key pushes somthing in the back of the lock that you arent doing with your pick but i wouldnt know about such things,

Freaky, nice of you but please dont put me on a pedistal im nothing special and theres people on here that blow me out the water, i just know a lot of stuff

by **freakparade3** » 13 Apr 2007 20:58

LOL. I know Shrub, I just like to give a little razz once in awile. I was tought to respect my elders and betters. Since alot of guys here are better at locks than me, It's a show of respect.

by **Shrub** » 13 Apr 2007 21:02

Thats cool, i do know for a fact though that most of you think im twice my actual age

(Unless you think im 10 in which case your right

)

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 21:09

lunchb0x wrote:are you picking it the same direction that you use the key to unllock it? does it have a snib on the back or a push button

Turning the same direction as the key (cylinder turns full 180 degrees), snib on the back

by **bmmeup** » 13 Apr 2007 21:10

bmmeup wrote:
lunchb0x wrote:are you picking it the same direction that you use the key to unllock it? does it have a snib on the back or a push button

Turning the same direction as the key (cylinder turns full 180 degrees), snib on the back

now I can't get in my shed..hahaha

by **freakparade3** » 13 Apr 2007 21:17

Shrub wrote:
Shrub wrote: Due to the ethics of our hobby we make it a point not to help people picking locks in use or not their own, im not saying this isnt your own lock but it is surely in use,

Here it is again, in case you missed it................

Cylinder turns but doesn't unlock

Cylinder turns but doesn't unlock

Who is online