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When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

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Postby n00bking » 14 Apr 2007 10:45

Hey. I got my lock picking kit like 2 days ago in the mail. So I take my little 4 pin crappy Corbin padlock, pick it in under 10 minutes. Or something like that. It took me like 10 minutes from getting the stuff out to picking the lock. But, I couldn't figure out which tension wrench to use and how to get it in or something, I had some problems for like 8 minutes. Then probably in 2 I got it picked. Now, I can pick the lock in under like 2 seconds with my snake rake pick. It is absurd how bad this padlock sucks. (security wise):)

OK, So I buy this padlock for 2.50 at the local dollar store. It looks like a Master Lock. But it is a no name brand. I take my Dremel to it, on the bottom and on top where the rivits are. I find out, there are actually no rivets at all. It is just a solid metal block with the "plates" of metal there for show, they aren't really there, they are just like etched in or something.

Well it was 2.50 right? But everstill, how do I dissasemble it?

Now to my real problem. I can get it, so that I get all 4 pins in there so that when I slowly release my tension wrench I hear click, click, click, click. There are only 4 pins in the lock, so I know I got all of them, but the lock won't open! What the freaking crap and I doing wrong?

Thanks.
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Postby jgencinc » 14 Apr 2007 11:03

most likely you are over-setting a pin or four. You are pushing a pin higher than it should be. Use less force on your pick when raising the pins. just lift a little at a time. Listen and feel for the clicks. When you feel a click from a pin, leave it and find another that is binding. Don't force the pins.

BTW what kind of dollar store do you go to? I thought the point of a dollar store was that everything cost a dollar.
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Postby JackNco » 14 Apr 2007 11:12

Chances are it has a core very similar to the master no3

look at the key and use it as a map to the lock.

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Postby n00bking » 14 Apr 2007 11:18

well it was a dollar general. like, everything is cheap, not all a dollar. Ya I know it is retarted.
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Postby bumber » 14 Apr 2007 12:52

Two things, one (I must think every one is dumb :lol: ) does the key open it both ways? If not are u turning the right way? Two if you use a dremel you are likely melting/welding the metal of the retaining bars to the lock body(you might have to cut them square than drill em) Because I think u have to be able to take it apart(am I right??)
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Postby Tygart » 14 Apr 2007 14:23

n00bking could you please post an Image, it will make it easier for us to tell you how to take it apart.

Thanks

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Postby bumber » 14 Apr 2007 16:01

Well I only know of one lock that cant be taken apart and Shrub has deemed it "un-basic" so I can really say what is was here. (But i'd love to club him for it :wink: )
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Postby fizzmahon » 14 Apr 2007 18:23

start with a cheap deadbold you can pick up for $10 to $15 at your local hardware store. deviant and kwickset are good starting brands. learn to rekey it and follow digital blues guide. it will teach you what to feel for in pins. you can find his guide sticked and also in the FAQ
Practicing raking is like practicing pissing, why bother? --Gostone
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Postby n00bking » 14 Apr 2007 19:00

Tygart wrote:n00bking could you please post an Image, it will make it easier for us to tell you how to take it apart.

Thanks

Tygart



Actually, I wasn't able to take the lock apart.

I picked the lock actually once today. Using my snake rake, it took like a nanosecond, but I think it may have already been unlocked.

And to whoever asked, the lock opens both ways.
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Postby Tygart » 14 Apr 2007 19:12

n00bking wrote:
Tygart wrote:n00bking could you please post an Image, it will make it easier for us to tell you how to take it apart.

Thanks

Tygart



Actually, I wasn't able to take the lock apart.

I picked the lock actually once today. Using my snake rake, it took like a nanosecond, but I think it may have already been unlocked.

And to whoever asked, the lock opens both ways.


I know, but I thought that was one of the reasons you were posting.. If you want to know how to take it apart it will be helpful to take a picture. Then we can give you better information.
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Postby n00bking » 15 Apr 2007 10:25

OK, maybe later I'll post a pick, but really, I don't know if this this is even possible to open, I mean...it is like a solid block of metal! I don't know how they even got it together.
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Postby Shrub » 15 Apr 2007 10:45

I said the club was a lock used for auto security so isnt open for public discussion, i didnt say it was not able to be pulled appart nor did i say it was a decent lock in any stretch of the imagination,


As regards the lock discussed here,

Are you sure its not laminated? it could be that they are just pressed very cloesly together,

A good tap with a mallet on the side will soon tell you,

Otherwise we need a make and model or at best pictures,

You have to help us to help you,


If somthing is made it can also be unmade, the issues come when you want to put it back together,
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Postby Shrub » 15 Apr 2007 10:46

It could possably be two halves welded together and then chromed but more common on solid body locks is that there are plugs blocking holes that the mechs were fitted through,

Look for Illusions tricircle repinning guide,
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Postby C_4 » 17 Apr 2007 9:48

Ok so i have one of these lock that you are talking about.
the rip off master locks.

First of all they are super easy. scary easy. you dont even need to pick it.

first of all there is a little button in the back that you need to push down. it id not strait back but if you angle your pick diagonal to wards the back of the pins you should feel it go into a little hole (you may or may not feel the hole) then once it is back there lever it up towards the pins and push down in the back and it should push the button and just pop open. I have found this to work on many cheap locks such as suitcase lock and real cheap padlocks.
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Postby CompFX » 20 Apr 2007 7:06

That is more of a bypass than a pick. We are here to pick locks, not just open them. That is good knowledge to have, but will do nothing to help develop skills.

BTW, Welcome to the board.

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