U-Change- what retailers don't know.

by **Stray** » 28 Nov 2006 19:20

Well Today the weiser rep came in and showed us weisers new line of locks... when he started showing it right away i thought U-Lock....

http://www.weiserlock.ca/wei-eng/SmartKey.htm

So Now for all those who wanted one HD is selling them too...

Sorry for old news if everyone else knew already.

by **Stray** » 28 Nov 2006 19:26

* urrrmmm U-change Lock...

by **2octops** » 28 Nov 2006 23:54

Even better news headed this way. Strattec & Master Lock have teamed up and have the same thing on the way.

Master Lock has sunken to a new low with this one.

by **Jryanruch** » 16 Apr 2007 13:26

An ilco/dominion NE2 blank will fit easily into a previously used U Change cylinder.. You will have to file back the shoulder in order to reach the last pin.

The joke on these things is that they're supposed to be user-rekeyable and I get called to 'rekey' them for customers all the time. The Weiser Rep denied knowing anything about U Change at the recent Locksmith trade show in Vancouver BC... :roll:

by **zeke79** » 16 Apr 2007 13:47

That is due to the weiser actually being more alike to the rielda/lynx type locks than a U change lock. The operation is completely different. Next time you see the rep, mention something like "ah like a rielda" when you see the internals and see what he says.

by **rakemaster** » 16 Apr 2007 17:31

Related but different note: I think Master used to (or still does) have a line of padlocks with these strange breakaway pins that can be initially keyed to any key by kind of pounding it in with a hammer. Onced keyed they can't be re-keyed tho.

Rakemaster

by **Jryanruch** » 16 Apr 2007 17:52

They do.. the UP (Universal Pin?) padlocks.

by **raimundo** » 17 Apr 2007 8:32

so the pins on those things break? eh, I have seen them in the store, but as they are master, theres no chance of my buying one, so I never knew that. seems to me that if the pins are designed to break, a screwdriver might turn the plug by breaking the pins. also, if its not easy to break that means there will be a fractured area on the shearline that will rub like two jagged rocks and give the key a rough feel.

by **Jryanruch** » 17 Apr 2007 12:17

In my opinion they aren't good enough for commercial use, but for a scouts camp or something they are perfect. I don't think the shearing pins makes them easier to bypass or pick (but I haven't thought much about it -- who can't pick one?) We've had problems with setting them to worn keys.[/b]

by **Shrub** » 17 Apr 2007 12:17

And what happens to the broken bits?

by **Jryanruch** » 17 Apr 2007 12:18

In my opinion they aren't good enough for commercial use, but for a scouts camp or something they are perfect. I don't think the shearing pins makes them easier to bypass or pick (but I haven't thought much about it -- who can't pick one?) We've had problems with setting them to worn keys.

by **rrrrrrkevin** » 18 Apr 2007 9:53

if you have a problem setting them to worn keys could that mean that the pins are only designed to break at specific depths that master padlock keys come standard with? thats doesnt sound really reliable but that is a pretty cool concept if thats how they work,that might also prevent the screwdriver thing to because you would have to get all the pins to an actual depth that the pins would split apart on

by **Chucklz** » 18 Apr 2007 12:26

Shrub, the pins are one piece before they are sheared. When you smack the plug foward (1 pin chamber.. there is a top pin/spring in the last chamber) you shear the pins, and one half becomes the top pin and the other the bottom pin.

Yes the pins only shear on specific depths. Why would this be less reliable?

by **rrrrrrkevin** » 18 Apr 2007 16:35

i meant the feature where they are designed to break at places

U-Change- what retailers don't know.

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