Re-pinning deadbolt cylinder

[Marco]

I have read quite a lot of the forums for re-pinning cylinders, but everybody seems to be able to do it easily. I have two different locks, and i can't seem to take apart either.






I'm pretty sure i had the right idea, i have to take of the round bit of metal at the back of the lock. In the lock on the first picture, it would not budge at all! In the second lock, the piece of metal extends all around the back of the lock and i barely attempted to remove that. So am i doing the completely wrong thing, or are there some locks which are really hard to re-pin?

[WhiteHat]

with the first lock - put some muscle into it - get a pair of pliers and pull it off.

with the second one, if it is what I think it looks like, there should be a pin that's stopping the rotation of the top bit. you'll need to get something (usually I use a pick) to hold down the pin while you screw it off.

[WhiteHat]

sorry for the double post but just found a similar lock in my collection:

hold down the pin indicated by the poorly drawn excuse for an arrow.

[jimb]

With the first lock there is a clip on the back side that holds the plug and the stem in. Just remove the clip and unlock it and the plug will slide out of the front of the lock.

WhiteHat is correct on the second one. hold in the pin and unscrew the cap. Be sure to remove this pin and the small spring below the pin so it does not get lost.

[Marco]

Thanx whitehat! I just took apart the second lock (the one with the pin i had to hold down). But as for the other lock...i think im going to leave that for now. I'll deal with it when i need to because i was trying for almost an hour to get that open but wasn't getting anywhere.

Thanx heaps for your help. Time for me to try out d_b's beginner picking excercises!

[Chucklz]

When reassembling the lock with the pin, becareful not to over or under tighten the nut. Overtighten, and the lock will be hard to operate. Undertighten, and the key will be hard to remove, as the plug will move slightly foward, and the pins will jam up when trying to remove the key. This is a particularly annoying problem.

[mojomojo]

Chucklz is correct with what he is saying about not to over or under tighten the cap b/c those are the exact symptoms that you will get and as far as the 1st cylinder take a precision flat screwdriver and pry it out startin at 9 o'clock is almost simlair to a kwikset deadbolt cylinder but at the opposite end

[CompFX]

On the first pic, there is a small black 'E' clip (A.K.A. " Clip") You will need to remove that. Put your key in the lock, turn it 90 degreese, left or right, it dont matter, and then remove the black clip with a small flat screwdriver. Once the black clip is removed, take the tail piece out and use a plug follower to push the plug out through the front of the core.

I cannot see clearly on the first pic, but on the second one, you could also take the cover off the bible and have access to the springs and driver pins.

[WOT]

When reassembling the lock with the pin, becareful not to over or under tighten the nut. Overtighten, and the lock will be hard to operate. Undertighten, and the key will be hard to remove, as the plug will move slightly foward, and the pins will jam up when trying to remove the key. This is a particularly annoying problem.

I hand tighten it until it stops, then back off one notch.

[hesevil]

Marco, I think this is what is holding you up on the first one. I have outlined a piece on the lock in red, it is the 'e' clip (called that for it's shape resembling the letter e). Anyways, in the upper left of the picture is an outline of what that piece looks like when separated from the lock. You need to insert a small flathead screwdriver or anything with a point on it between the lock and this clip and pry in the direction of the arrow.

[hesevil]

Don't know why that picture won't load in the post, the code is all correct. You can use this link instead.

http://www.hesevil.com/pics/lock.jpg

-Matt

[Marco]

I thought this post was dead by now! good to see that people are still posting Well this has inspired me to take another look at that lock and see if i can get it open this time.
Hesevil: you are right about that clip..its amazing how something so small can cause me so much trouble! I'll post again in a couple of hours and tell you how i went. Wish me luck!

[Marco]

I did it! I managed to get the clip off! However, i didn't exactly use conventional methods, but after sawing, filing, and a few minor cuts and scratches the little sucker came off quite easily.

In the process of taking it off i did realise how it was meant to be done. I was trying to lift and pry it up, where i should have been pushing/pulling it out. It's all in the learning process i guess. Next time I will know.

You've all been a big help, thanks!

[Charodei]

The clips are fairly standard parts, I think, so it shouldn't be hard to find a replacement. After putting them on and off a number of times (e.g. repinning my Kwikset a few dozen times) the clip can bend outward a bit and no longer fit tightly. A little squeeze with pliers will fix that.

[hesevil]

Marco, I'm glad to hear that you got it. As it was said, you can buy some of those clips at an autoparts or hardware store. They usually come in an assortment of around 10 pieces in different sizes for about $2US.

-Matt