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it's all about tension ...

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it's all about tension ...

Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 20:02

ok guys. I have read a lot of tutorials(on the internet) and things like that. But i dont find when to apply tension.

I have succesfully picked 3 locks : 2 littles one from a cheap shop and a skikey from my friend.

My 2 chep one, i just had to put the pick in it and like put it up and applying tension and it poped open.

Since i wanna be a good lockpicker, i waana really know how to apply tension and what the **** is the binding effect, im a frenchie, and i dont always catch up whit you english people.
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Postby Tygart » 17 Apr 2007 20:21

You could have constant tension, just enough as you would turn a key (spools are a little different.)

When they are talking about bending, they mean the bending pin. There will be a pin that bends, press the pin up, then another pin will bend keep setting the pins until it opens.


Hope that helps
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Postby Tygart » 17 Apr 2007 20:23

Sorry for the double post


I ment you should have constant tension
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Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 20:29

i didnt said to bend i said to bind, or is the same thing, i dont really know

but in frenc to bend=plier
binding= coincer

binding was not something like the pin get stucked in the chamber. and if it does, what is the point for the pin to bend or bind

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Postby Krypos » 17 Apr 2007 20:30

Tygart wrote:When they are talking about bending.....



they mean BINDING.

a pin will BIND. as in, it will feel stuck in the bible. (bible being the housing of the lock)

the best thing you can do if you really want to learn this stuff, and this is where you seem to be having trouble, then check out digital blues beginner exercise. it addresses this exact problem with an easy to follow guide.

hey, hows my french?

Ils signifient la RELIURE.

Une épingle LIERA. comme dans, il sentira s'a enfoncé dans la bible. (la bible est le logement de la serrure)

La meilleure chose vous pouvez faire si vous voulez apprendre vraiment cette chose, et ceci est où vous semblez avoir l'ennui, alors payer la note l'exercice de novice de blues numérique. il adresse ce problème exact avec un facile à suivre le guide.


im not sure how accurate that is, so if something is like, insulting, or wrong, or whatever. sorry. i dont even know french.
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Postby mrdan » 17 Apr 2007 20:31

I believe it were a typo. I is bind not bend. If it bends the pin, I would think you should back off on the tension. lol :wink:
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Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 20:34

ok so tell me if im wrong

a pin will bind when it will get stuck in the bible. so when you put all of your pins to the shear line, all of your pins have binded??
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Postby Eyes_Only » 17 Apr 2007 20:35

I read somewhere that when applying tension on the wrench, you only place the same amount of pressure as you would when you hit a key on your keyboard when you are typing or when you press the button on your mouse.
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Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 20:36

and your french is not that bad, but was that a google traduction ??
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Postby samfishers » 17 Apr 2007 20:37

man this so not much pressur, you sure it would work cause i got a thought i would take a little more that that
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Postby Eyes_Only » 17 Apr 2007 21:25

Sometime if you snag a security pin in a lock that employs one you can add a little bit more pressure depending on your style of bypassing security pins, but most of the time light tension is all you really need. Too much tension will cause your pick tools to start bending or even break. That experience taught me a lot about proper tension.
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Postby raimundo » 18 Apr 2007 10:24

Yes, bind is the word, and a typo makes it another word.
Sam, you are most certainly using too much tension, there are some other francophone pickers here and the locks in france seem to be quite different than what is seen in other places, so it is the french pickers who can help you the most. there are several on the site, if you want to use the search engine to just find a few simple conjunctions (words that connect other words) that occur in french all the time and are not part of the english language, like le, la, etc. this should sort out the posts that are in the french language, then mark down the names of those posters, and click thier profile, when that comes up, click on the little blue line called "all posts by'' that should help you figure out who is knowlegable and who is just a nubi, likely you will also find interesting information in those threads, about french locks.
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Postby samfishers » 18 Apr 2007 16:30

ok thanx that will surely help, but i am not from france im from québec in canada

and binding is when the pin gets stuked in the bible and the other pin is at the shear line?
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Postby Krypos » 18 Apr 2007 17:31

meh. i havent read the rest of this thread, but that french was from a free translator online.

i dont actually speak a lick of french. heh.
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Postby samfishers » 18 Apr 2007 17:50

:lol: héhé i was sure of it :wink:
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