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Plate On Top Of Shell

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Plate On Top Of Shell

Postby Tygart » 20 Apr 2007 0:27

There is a plate on the top of the shell that hold the springs in and all the pins.

Well I was taking the plug out and my plug follower was too small :oops:

Could I remove that plate and make it easir for me to reincert the springs and pins??

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Postby Krypos » 20 Apr 2007 0:33

heck yes you can.

actually, thats what i did as a beginner. i took that thing off. i discovered this after ruining my first lock. heh.

what i ended up doing when i started, was i would take a lock i intended for practice purposes, and i took that off, well it can be hard to get on or off, so i took them off for good, and then cut a strip of tin can, cleaned it up a bit, and then put that over it, then a rubber band around the whole lock cylinder.

this kept it whole and functioning perfectly, however, repinning it was just 2 seconds away, and i could EASILY repin it or disassemble like *that.*

thats what i did. though i would not suggest this unless you intend to make it a practice lock for good.

ultimately, you can put the little metal slide back in, however, it rarely ( for me) works well.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Apr 2007 0:55

I've tried to take the metal strip out of the lock but most of mines look like it has some sort of glue on it keeping it in place. The covers on my ASSA cylinders on the other hand has nothing holding it in place so it slides right out but I'm too scared of losing the parts so I'm holding off on it.
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Postby Shrub » 20 Apr 2007 5:13

Ray always suggests to use a bit of junior hacksaw blade as the teeth will grip the plate and then you are able to slid it off,

I think Krypos covered the actual answer so theres little more i can add other than i concurr,
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Postby Krypos » 20 Apr 2007 8:22

Shrub wrote:I think Krypos covered the actual answer so theres little more i can add other than i concurr,


Giggity.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Apr 2007 9:29

I read somewhere in this site I think that using a small torch can help remove the glue. This was a tip given for situations where someone loaded up your locks with super glue but I think the same method would still work. :?
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Postby pauly003 » 20 Apr 2007 10:15

Some of them are actually crimped on top to make it very hard to remove. It definately helps if you have a couple of spares lying around.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 20 Apr 2007 11:40

I think I rather do something like what Krypos said, make your own parts and secure it on with tape. It'll probably be cheaper.
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Postby Krypos » 20 Apr 2007 17:59

ok, well heres how i take em off. as that can be tricky too.

this is destructive to the top slide thing. but that should* be all. what i usually do, is i take a nail and pound that down the lip between the shell and the slide. just enough that i can put my needle nose pliers down the edge a bit, and then i just roll my pliers down it. this take the entire thing out.

and i dont suggest tape to keep it down. taking pics. i got caught up, will post pics in a bit.
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Postby lunchb0x » 20 Apr 2007 18:04

why dont you use something like a drill it for a plug follower, some of the top caps dont come off very well because of how they are crimped on
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Postby Tygart » 20 Apr 2007 19:14

Thank you all very much for the replies
Well if it could damage it then I don't want to remove the cap. I would like to be able to take a lock apart and get it back together again.
It will be fun to learn how to do it.

But the above is nice to know..


Thanks again

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Postby Krypos » 20 Apr 2007 19:43

yeah, the lock works in perfect condition afterwards, though it is forever a practice lock using MY* method, personally, i dont mind, other might though.

there are ways of removing it without damaging it terribly, and i have dont them, though its a pain in the butt if you wish to repin it like every 30 minutes.

pics shortly, im getting dressed......hehehe
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Postby 2octops » 20 Apr 2007 23:49

Why not just make a follower that is the right size?

Lot faster and easier in my opinion.

Grab a business card and roll it up a little smaller than you actually need. Once you have it inside the housing behind the plug a little, let off on the card and let it expand to fit the inside of the housing.

I've got a ton of followers, but usually use this method if it's only one or two cylinders to repin. A business card is good for 3 or 4 cylinders depending on how rough you handle it.
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