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spacers

Postby samfishers » 27 Apr 2007 7:31

heu, guys in one of my locks i have spacers. doest that means something and when i repin it, it wont go up again!!

help?
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Postby UWSDWF » 27 Apr 2007 7:33

spacers? what do you mean by spacers?
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Postby Eyes_Only » 27 Apr 2007 7:39

Do you mean a master pin?
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Postby samfishers » 27 Apr 2007 13:23

no, no, guys i mean like a little piece of metal between the pin and the driver pin, like a slice of a pin, you get it?

i was wondering if that was like a false breaking point?
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Postby UWSDWF » 27 Apr 2007 13:34

samfishers wrote:no, no, guys i mean like a little piece of metal between the pin and the driver pin, like a slice of a pin, you get it?

i was wondering if that was like a false breaking point?


yes yes , guy you are talking about a master pin (wafer) look it up
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Postby samfishers » 27 Apr 2007 14:06

no, no a was repining it it, it is not a wafer lock its a pin tumbler lock a door lock a Russwin lock
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Postby freakparade3 » 27 Apr 2007 14:15

Master pins are used in pin tumbler locks. The "slices" of pins you are talking about are master pins. Master pins are used to master key a lock. What that means is that you can use keys with different biting to open the lock. Master pins also make the lock easier to pick because a master keyed lock has multiple shearlines.
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Postby UWSDWF » 27 Apr 2007 14:29

ohh look a fluffy dog......

MASTER PIN.... MASTER PIN... MASTER PIN

due to the fact that they are so vey tin at times are refered (innapropriately) as a wafer (wafer thin)

LOOK UP
Master keying
Master pin
Master pinning
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Postby Jaakko » 27 Apr 2007 17:35

samfishers wrote:no, no a was repining it it, it is not a wafer lock its a pin tumbler lock a door lock a Russwin lock

Sorry, but either I'm drunk or you have some issues with your english :) I had to literally read that one with a thought. No offence, just wondering :)

And as has been told, the little thing you've encountered is a master pin. Reminds those little button cell batteries in wrist watches, except much smaller.
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Postby samfishers » 27 Apr 2007 17:50

ox thax all for that and sorry UWSDF because i thought master pin were like security pins :oops: .

and ok i have also a little ball in side the lock what does tha means? is it still like for a master key?
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Postby UWSDWF » 27 Apr 2007 17:59

thats for contractor keying or anti-drill it depends where you found it
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Postby Schuyler » 27 Apr 2007 18:18

I'd put 90% that it's anti-drill / anti-wear. The construction keyed locks I have are extraordinarily small balls, and many of them.
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Postby Chucklz » 27 Apr 2007 21:09

Corbin, Russwin, Corbin/Russwin, and Sargent locks often have a ball as the bottom pin in the first chamber of the lock. This is an antiwear measure, as the first pin in the lock gets the most abuse in inserting/removing a key.
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Postby samfishers » 28 Apr 2007 8:23

oww ok that put up a light :idea:
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Postby samfishers » 1 May 2007 17:02

freakparade3 wrote: Master pins also make the lock easier to pick because a master keyed lock has multiple shearlines.


maybe easier to open, but not to repin

i tried and failled a couple of times
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