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by dmux » 2 May 2007 22:01
^^ agree, just because you have the sleeve tension tool doesn't mean it is really easy, it is still quite tough, most are a 6-7 pin lock but they are fun to mess with
i have picked one twice with a regular tension tool and a hook pick
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by Eyes_Only » 2 May 2007 22:08
Lucky you. I haven't even picked one.  Hmm....maybe thats cos I probably didn't combinate the core properly. 
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by nooj » 3 May 2007 15:31
so to clarify, with the finger tension tool, you just stick it in, turn it clockwise a bit, and pick it like any other regular pin tumbler lock?
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by JackNco » 3 May 2007 15:50
well... ya
But you basically just point a rocket at the moon and fire it to get there...
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by nooj » 9 May 2007 15:25
how do you find out the letter for the lock model?
IE A,F,I, etc etc...
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by JackNco » 9 May 2007 15:40
U mean which key way? well have a play on Google, search for "best key way" and see hoe it goes. or get a key blank reference book.
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by boggers » 9 May 2007 17:00
Take a look in the Buy-Sell_Trade section, Best blanks for sale, last posting was March 28.
Also there is an Ilco catalog available showing the Ilco number for each keyway.
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by 2octops » 10 May 2007 22:33
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by raimundo » 11 May 2007 8:37
Ah so w means wide, Ive seen the keys, not the lock, but didnt know that w always meant wide. I understand that they no longer make that cylinder? is that correct or do I have wrong infor?
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by Eyes_Only » 11 May 2007 8:53
Why do lock manufactures in the U.S. always stop productions of locks that could be extremely pick resistant? It's almost like they want to be broken in by clever criminals.
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by JackNco » 11 May 2007 10:49
last i herd they modified it so you couldnt use the special tension tools but ive not herd about them stopping the range. i assume the other brands would continue.
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by Eyes_Only » 11 May 2007 11:17
Yeah they widened the holes or something on the control sleeve so the tension wrench can't get a firm grip on it. But I think a bump key would still work.
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by JackNco » 11 May 2007 11:59
hmmmmm im sure as you have 2 shear lines and a lot of them are master keyed, thats a lot of pins flying about in there. it would work eventually in theory but it would take longer.
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by nooj » 12 May 2007 13:02
I got the Peterson tension tool, but like you said, EYes Only, its having trouble staying in place.
After you rotate the cylinder 15 degrees-ish clockwise, does that mean that's the direction you should go to open the lock? Because most of the locks i've opened have been CCW. This lock is annoying. =(
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by JackNco » 12 May 2007 14:33
i just got the Peterson tool and so far im not impressed but i need to spend more time playing with it. if you have one of the locks with wider holes then it would make no difference to using a normal tension tool.
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