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Abloy on pepsi machine ?

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Abloy on pepsi machine ?

Postby desert_gold_hound » 3 May 2007 16:08

Ok I am not asking how to pick this lock so please don't take it wrongly.

I was getting a soda and when I did I looked at the lock it was one of the round locks but not like your normal 7 or 8 pin lock (or so I don't think). It had a hourglass type shape inside it. It had the name of Abloy on the lock.

I am curious what type of lock this is ie. how it works. I have read nothing that even seems remotely close to this type of lock. Does anyone know about these locks? How do they work? Are they very efficient in doing there job of keeping honest people honest or are they peaces of junk?

I will try to post a picture of the lock after I get off work and the buisness is closed ( I don't know how they would react to someone taking a photo of there locks it would make my nerves run wild).
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Postby desert_gold_hound » 3 May 2007 16:08

Oh yea did you all go through a stage of checking out every lock you see?
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Postby n2oah » 3 May 2007 16:20

Yes, I still check out every lock I see.
I'll dig up some Abloy info right quick.
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Postby cjames73 » 3 May 2007 16:32

i believe abloy are very good locks.
there are a few papers on abloy on the toool website(the list on right hand side of the page)
http://www.toool.nl/index-eng.php

desert_gold_hound wrote:Oh yea did you all go through a stage of checking out every lock you see?

i still do, cant help it :lol:
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Postby Chucklz » 3 May 2007 16:51

The hourglass keyway is one of the newer Abloy locks.
Oh, you never stop checking out "other" locks.
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Postby desert_gold_hound » 3 May 2007 17:00

That could make sence becouse they just changed their insides of the machine becouse it was having problems taking and giving back change before. I know I used to have to change the locks at the gas station I was dispatched from when we changed anypart of the machine.
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Postby desert_gold_hound » 3 May 2007 17:04

Oh yea and nice site TOOOL I am checking them out right now.

The number of posts I am posting is by no means an attempt to get into the advanced area I know I need 60days and I am by no means ready for this. I just enjoy chatting a learning. I do wont in but I know good things come to those who wait.

In fact when I was trying to figure out what I wonted to do for a living I was thinking about myself "My friends say I am annoying, I like to talk on the phone, I tend to call others at the worst time possible....I THINK I WOULD MAKE A GOOD TELAMARKETER!!!) :lol:
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Postby Deathadder » 3 May 2007 21:40

we have execs i believe on all of our vending machines in our school, dont really know why they would put such high security locks on just a vending machine though...
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Postby Eyes_Only » 3 May 2007 23:28

Well it's either an Abloy type lock or a AceII. If I was running a vending company I would not be willing to risk it on any Ace lock. The technique to open a regular Ace has motivated enough people to go after either Ace locks I bet.
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Postby desert_gold_hound » 4 May 2007 0:08

Deathadder wrote:we have execs i believe on all of our vending machines in our school, dont really know why they would put such high security locks on just a vending machine though...


This vending machine is outside and the store closes. I would guess thats the reason. It is located at a towing company.
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Postby DaveAG » 4 May 2007 11:03

Deathadder wrote:we have execs i believe on all of our vending machines in our school, dont really know why they would put such high security locks on just a vending machine though...


I would have thought that key-control is paramount in the vending industry as an unscrupulous employee with keys could walk off with a lot of money.

As for pick/bump proof, theives will typically take the easiest way in to get what they want. When the stakes are high (large amounts of untraceable money), and brute force is made very difficult, ensuring that the locks are pick-resistant is important.

If a burglar is looking to break into a house, smashing the window is easier than picking a medeco deadbolt, but for getting into a vending machine the rest of the unit is typically secure enough that paying some attention to the lock is important.
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Postby Axilithor » 4 May 2007 14:07

I'm still checking out every lock i see. I never thought this could be so addictive :oops: :lol:
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Postby Jaakko » 4 May 2007 15:15

Axilithor wrote:I'm still checking out every lock i see. I never thought this could be so addictive :oops: :lol:

Sort of offtopic, but me too :) Last time I noticed this behaviour, I was watching The Matrix where is the Keymaker :D
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Postby scorpiac » 4 May 2007 21:27

Axilithor wrote:I'm still checking out every lock i see. I never thought this could be so addictive :oops: :lol:


HaHa, me too but I happen to be a service writer at a Tire and Lube Express so I fill out work orders and take peoples keys all day long and I can't help but check out peoples keys all the time! I also cut keys and can't help but comment when some one hands me a weiser key to copy that has some pathetic keying like 3 identical shallow cuts in a row or something similar it happens all the time. A WR5 key accounts for probably 75% of the keys I cut! But I actually get excited or at least impressed when I write up a work order and take someones keys and see a Multi-Lock or Kaba key on the ring :D
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Postby zeke79 » 4 May 2007 21:35

Inside of the locks are a series of discs that must be rotated to the proper degree to allow a sidebar to retract and allow rotation of the inner "sleeve".

Here is a pic of an abloy cutaway I made on my mill to show something similar to the lock you saw. The second pic is another example which is an anchor las 11 disc system.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/ ... loycw1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/ ... loycw4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/ ... loycw2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/ ... horlas.jpg
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