Hey, Ibought a master lock 140d or 140 not to sure which is correct, and I have not got any picks at the moment so i'm using a paperclip anyways I can get the first pin up and locked in possible after about 20 trys but when I try to lift the second pin the first one falls back down again? I think I have lifted it before, also I dont no how many pins are in the lock
Master 140/140d (140d is the long shackle with the plastic case on it)
4pin with spools
The binding order does not always (Or usually) Start at the front OR back and work forward or backwards. the binding order is random.
Spool pins will be a Sod to pick with a paper clip if you don't know what your doing. but the master 140 is a nice easy lock if u have some real picks.
All the best
John
PS please search in future this exact question gets asked most weeks
Sorry yeh its the 140, so I can lift any pins in any order, do I need to shove something in the keyway to hold the first pin up? or should I just lift it up so it locks in place
I have a similar lock made by Craftsman and used to have a 140 in the past. It's a simple looking lock but everytime I attempt to pick a new one I always have trouble with it initially. I've had success with it by placing the tension wrench at the top of the keyway rather than the bottom. Because of the way it is shaped, placing the wrench at the bottom can seriously hinder picking attempts at times.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
You say you are using a paperclip to pick the lock but do you have a Tension wrench? I f you dont make a improvised one with a hair pin. Maybe it is because you dont have the tension wrench to put tension while with your paperclip you are pushing up the pins to the shear line.
Paper clips are just not strong enough to be able to push up on the pins without deforming while the plug is under tension. It's one of the worst possible materials to make picks out of.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
Dooms_day wrote:if there are 4 pins, and you dont know the binding order, pick from back to front 4 times and it pops open!
You are right but may I say more precise: You know the binding order by finding the binding pin and setting that and continuing the search of a binding pin
...hmm...sounds like a movie, "The Search of The Binding Pin"
anyways I can get the first pin up and locked in possible after about 20 trys but when I try to lift the second pin the first one falls back down again? I think I have lifted it before, also I dont no how many pins are in the lock
yeh its the 140, so I can lift any pins in any order, do I need to shove something in the keyway to hold the first pin up? or should I just lift it up so it locks in place
