Cylinder Impression kits?

[Pentland 2006]

Firstly, as this is my first time on this site I would like to say Hi to all locksmiths out there.
Secondly, just wondering if there are any GOOD impressioning kits out there for opening Yale type cylinders without the key being present.
Not had much success with my Electropick and general picking, so looking to explore other methods of entry without extracting the lock.

Cheers

Cris

[JackNco]

hey
Ive not tried impressioning yet (I really should) but there is plenty about it around. but i asume you will find impressioning a very slow method for opening locks. even the best have times of around 7-10 minutes.

May i ask if you are a locksmith ?

[Pentland 2006]

Yes....I'm a Locksmith from over the Northern Border.
Being Trading for only 4 months and doing okay. Just bought some Mortice Decoding kits and they will be VERY useful once I've mastered the technique to a good level. Looking to go down the road of non-destructive wherever possible.

[JackNco]

i assume u mean Canada?

But props to you for going NDE.

[Shrub]

No kits as yet i dont think,

The best thing i can suggest you do is to search, you will find a great thread on impressioning which should tell you all you need to know then its just practice,

Welcome to the site, realise this is a hobby site not a lockie site and that its international,
I assume your in scotland and not canada due to the terms and locks you use and mention but remember its international so north of what border?

Be careful gogin buying all the shiney bits, most are just that and will sit on a shelf until sold again so make sure you research properly before spending out,

You say your a lockie, is this a new thing or have you been in the buis for a while?
If your new have you just done one of these 2 day courses?

[PickPick]

What do you consider an impressioning kit? I mean all you need is a pair of grip pliers and a decent file. Optionally a lighted magnifier and maybe a caliper. Then you take your blanks and have some fun.
You can get all this form the hardware store, it just might be they need to order the file.

[Pentland 2006]

Scotland

I did a 3 day course and have only been trading for 4 months, but doing okay.
I was a Quality Technician for 20 years before taking redundancy and starting up as a locksmith.

I know there is a lot of locksmiths out there against the idea of short courses, but I couldn't afford the time to learn a trade that would have took me 2 years.

I have good qualification in Quality Management, so I come from a strict Quality and custmer led background. I understand the need to be to do a job based on quality of work and not violent destructive methods that some newbies might prefer to use. I think that most locksmiths would work as a locksmith for a few years before spending a lot of money on decoding systems for mortice locks.

I have decided to do the opposite.
I prefer to use my profit to buy these tools and develop as a locksmith instead of going out on a spending spree and buying a new TV or Car.

I will have at least 20 years in the business to look forward too, so my early investment will reap rewards in the future with Quality to the customer.

There will be plenty of time to spend my hard earned profits leter on when I know that I can deliver a service based on non-destructive locksmith work.

Chris

[JackNco]

Ah the north of the border think confused me, yale made me think UK but "north of the border made me think Canada (hink diehard 3). good look in the future.

[keyman]

Hi , there are a few decoders for cylinder locks ones called a sputnik but i wont go into much detail about it ,there is sort of a decoder for union made by John Falle but union are quick to pick so unless you really need the code to produce a key save your money.There are decoders made for goverments and law enforcement but we will never get our hands on them and might only ever get to see them on the very odd ocasion. Try reading Locks Safes and Security if you have time it will open your eyes to a world of the unknown.

Regards