What type of locks are these?

by **magician** » 22 May 2007 9:54

Hey there everyone

I was wondering if anyone knew what sort of locks these are??

The first one is a type tubular lock .... doesn't looks like a normal ace lock, what is up with the point in the middle?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x315 ... neP1LR.jpg

and for this one, i have no idea.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x315 ... neP1LR.jpg

by **UWSDWF** » 22 May 2007 9:57

they are both locks you'll never get into
not sure the first but the second is a abloy classic

by **Schuyler** » 22 May 2007 9:59

Looks like a normal ace to me. Point in the middle is standard.

second one is a disc type lock. Abloy or similar. Recent discussion has revealed that you'll need a shot of the discs themselves (not that hard to see with that big open keyway) to help in a positive ID. But what brand shouldn't matter too much to you at this stage. Just look up abloy (not assa abloy) and you'll find what you need.

by **UWSDWF** » 22 May 2007 10:01

not only that shoes they are both still attached to coke and vending machines

by **Eyes_Only** » 22 May 2007 10:03

I think we already gave him too much information. :wink:

by **Schuyler** » 22 May 2007 10:03

UWSDWF wrote:not only that shoes they are both still attached to coke and vending machines

heh, THAT is a very good point.

I should instill in you, magician, the same point that UW was making. First, the tubular lock you've got there is likely an ACE II which you will not be able to open, and the disc lock is something many of us consider well outside of our abilities. I would say most, but I don't want to speak for everyone.

Like he said, they're not opening anytime soon.

by **magician** » 22 May 2007 10:32

Eyes_Only wrote:I think we already gave him too much information.

LOL
I thank you all for your help.

I think I am giving the wrong impression here, I am not trying to rob the machines or anything like that, as my name states I am actually a magician, and i do escapes, from locks, handcuffs and such. I recently seen these locks and i was curious what they were.

by **magician** » 22 May 2007 10:41

Schuyler wrote:
UWSDWF wrote:not only that shoes they are both still attached to coke and vending machines

heh, THAT is a very good point.

I should instill in you, magician, the same point that UW was making. First, the tubular lock you've got there is likely an ACE II which you will not be able to open, and the disc lock is something many of us consider well outside of our abilities. I would say most, but I don't want to speak for everyone.

Like he said, they're not opening anytime soon.

I've had experience with ACE locks, and i have a set of SouthOrd (7&8 pin) and they get the job done for normal ACE locks, I have never been able to open ACE 2's though. But I've read a few different methods that are on these forums.

I don't think I have any experience with "a disc type lock. Abloy or similar"

by **zeke79** » 22 May 2007 10:48

Ace II's are easier to work on with the peterson pro-1 tubular pick.

by **magician** » 22 May 2007 10:53

zeke79 wrote:Ace II's are easier to work on with the peterson pro-1 tubular pick.

But the cost of the pick is 400$

by **Eyes_Only** » 22 May 2007 11:53

Yeah it is pretty pricey. And plus, how could a magician possibly hide a tool that large from their audience? Doesn't look like you can easily stash it away in any human body cavity. Although a little graphite might help with the process.

by **Nasydave** » 22 May 2007 12:31

The pointy tip really means nothing, other than it was probably made by LSI.

Although I have seen 10 pin pointies.

http://www.lockingsystems.com/VendingLocks.htm

by **zeke79** » 22 May 2007 12:36

The cost of the pick is more around $300 AND it can do many locks that your southord set cannot. For $300 you get a 7 pin tip, an 8 pin tip, and a card to receive a free tip of your choice. Taking that into account, you are getting three picks for $300 the cost is more justifiable.

Besides the tips it comes with you can pick up these tips to make it even more versitile:

DN - 7 pin keytip
.360 - 7 pin keytip
KK - 7 pin keytip
Octagon keytip

There was never a statement that he was using this tool during a magic show, only that he is a magician and is curious about the locks. I was chiming in to tell him a tool that WOULD pick the ACE II locks and do it consistently. You will not find an impression style ace pick that will do the ACE II locks consistently. The southord, hpc, A1, picks or any picks that use the sleeve and rubber bands to tension the probes are all impression style tools.

As far as stashing it it a body cavity eyes, lets just say that if you are stuffing southord picks in your bung or any pick for that matter you have some serious issues and lockpicks are the least of your worries.

by **Eyes_Only** » 22 May 2007 13:37

Yeah well this is the kind of thing that pops into my head when I work for 10 days straight without a day off, only got 2 hours of sleep the previous night because I took the morning meds by accident instead of the nighttime meds like I was supposed to before bed and having to drink 4 cups of coffee so I can stay wired enough to go to work in a few hours.

by **UWSDWF** » 22 May 2007 13:53

BUTTSECKS!!1!!??

What type of locks are these?

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