Okay Brockhage, you got me.

[Agent1]

ha ha ha ha.

Jokes on me. I'm the fool that paid $55 for this piece of crap. Sure, the principal sounded great but the actual product leaves much, very much, to be desired.

This flimsy, clanking, clattering, migraine-inducing, squeaking worthless pile of....metal.

1. Yes, I know. Its not magic and there is a learning curve. I've had it for a week and it opens on the most basic, simple, 5-year old child-proof locks.
2. It says to try for 20 seconds and if that doesn't work, adjust the tension. Let me tell you I've tried every single tension setting there is for 5 solid minutes and to no avail on more than 5% of tried locks.
3. The noise. God all Mighty this thing really makes a raquet. After the said 20 second tryout period you don't have a headache, you are superhuman.

All that said, I can pick open any of these locks 100X faster than this toy can manage to get them open. So, as a warning to other consumers out there- DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY. Extremely dissatisfied.

[zeke79]

Your first post is to bash a product? Very nice... Why not learn to use the tool before you bash it.

[freakparade3]

I'll give you $20 for it.

[Agent1]

Your first post is to bash a product? Very nice... Why not learn to use the tool before you bash it.

Incorrect. I've been here before but I dont have the same email address as I used to so I just started another account. So you're one of the "lets bash on n00bs" kind of guys. Bad childhood? Insecure? Didnt mean to hurt your e-feelings.

Next, I'll tell you that I've waited a full week and have given the product alot of time to show me its learning curve but I'm telling you there is nothing else to adjust, no other settings, no other techniques that could bring this thing to open locks that I can pick in under 10 seconds. I fully understand the mechainics of the locks I'm working with and I am telling you from several solid hours of using this product, its crap. Now, maybe its just my copy but regardless, crap.

[zeke79]

No actually if you read around I am usually one of the last ones to bash a newb unless they are acting like a total tool.

I just found it odd that your first post was knocking a product that takes time to get the hang of. What was your old username?

Best way I have found to use the snap guns is to fully insert the tool tip the approximate length of a key for that lock. You must make sure your pick needle is level with the bottom pins and a mm or two below them. Ie, you do not want the pick needle touching the pins if you can prevent it. Then do multiple clicks. I find that I really do not need to adjust the gun to get good results. It takes a bit of work to get the hang of but if you use them on the job they can save a lot of time.

Other than that, you may have received a faulty pick gun. Contact whom you bought it from and send it back for replacement. I personally like the Majestic "LockAid" guns. Very good stuff, the best I have used.

[freakparade3]

Straight from the rulebook.

20. One account per user please. If you have forgotten your account name or for whatever reason are unable to access your account, please contact an administrator (digital_blue or zeke79) via email and we will help you rectify the problem. Creation of multiple accounts is strictly prohibited and can result in a permanent ban from the site.

[freakparade3]

What was your old username?

I hope it's Helloman. I kinda miss him. He was like a puppy.

[Agent1]

Straight from the rulebook.

20. One account per user please. If you have forgotten your account name or for whatever reason are unable to access your account, please contact an administrator (digital_blue or zeke79) via email and we will help you rectify the problem. Creation of multiple accounts is strictly prohibited and can result in a permanent ban from the site.

Honestly, I don't recall the details of the old account. (If you must know) I don't have my old email address anymore and I don't recall my old username or password. I can tell you that it was a long time ago and the site looked very different, but it was certainly this site. Now, we can go round and round in circles playing this "I'm the Sheriff of this town" game or we can move on with life. Banning me would not upset me in the least because I'm sure every question I would have has already been asked here before thus making good use of the "search" function. I posted this thread merely to inform a potential buyer of this product to consider all the good, and bad aspects/opinions of the product before purchasing it. Am I being clear enough now?

Zeke: Thanks for the informative response that time. Like I said, I feel I've tried it all but I will take your words into account and give it another shot.

One last thing that might be found by searching around but since I had your attention I might as well ask it here. Do Brinks padlocks frequently contain security pins? I think mine does.

[zeke79]

I had no intentions of banning you for this account you are using now. If you remembered your old account I was going to disable it though. That was the extent of that question.

As far as brinks locks, yes they do very frequently contain spool pins. The brinks square shrouded locks are built around the AM7 keyway, have 6 pins and the bottom pins are serrated while top pins are serrated and spooled in all 6 positions on every one of them I have owned (half dozen of them or more). Most other padlocks from them however only contain standard spool top pins and standard bottom pins.

[Agent1]

I had no intentions of banning you for this account you are using now. If you remembered your old account I was going to disable it though. That was the extent of that question.

As far as brinks locks, yes they do very frequently contain spool pins. The brinks square shrouded locks are built around the AM7 keyway, have 6 pins and the bottom pins are serrated while top pins are serrated and spooled in all 6 positions on every one of them I have owned (half dozen of them or more). Most other padlocks from them however only contain standard spool top pins and standard bottom pins.

Wow, so that Brinks is kicking my ass. Now I know why. How do you suggest I get past the spool pins? I've picked it before but maybe it was random luck.

[zeke79]

You can find most answers to your questions by searching. It is a bit tricky to use the search function here but I believe there is a sticky detailing the best methods to use it and get good results.

Though I have nothing else to do right now I'll tell you a bit to help you out. What you need to do is pick a pin stack or two to a "false set" This means that you are stuck on a spool pin in the lock. At this point the plug will rotate a few degrees and give you a feeling that you have picked the lock but it will stop rotating. At that point you need to feel the pins and find the one that when lifted starts to rotate your tension wrench against your tension (ie rotates opposite the direction you are trying to pick the lock). Keep lifting that pin until you feel it set to shear again. You will need to repeat this through all of the pins until the lock opens. You will reset some of the pins during the process and you will have to go back and pick them again. Just as any lock there is a picking order for the pins but it is harder to tell when you are dealing with spools as like I said some that you have already set will reset when you are picking other pin stacks. Keep picking and setting the stacks that have reset and you will eventually open the lock.

The description above may be a bit lame but it is late here and I am pretty tired so you may want to search other posts to see if you can find a better description. Once you get the hang of it though you will be able to identify these pins much easier and have a much easier time picking these locks. I hope this helps atleast some for tonight.

[zeke79]

Btw, which brinks lock are you working on? Find a link to the exact lock if you can and I can tell you more about the lock possibly.

In the future you can also pick up some good help on the lockpicking101 official IRC channel. It is on slashnet, just hook up with #LP101 and someone there will help you out with just about anything.

[Benvox2]

Hey,

Are you by any chance talking about the Brockhage BPG-10 Snap gun?
Because I also have one and would hate to think its not a very good one!

[UWSDWF]

it's one of the better guns on the market


-5 OP for being a dork, rude and assuming.

[Benvox2]

What exactly is one of the better guns on the market? BPG-10?