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What kind of lock is this?

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What kind of lock is this?

Postby WOT » 28 May 2007 18:38

I came across this one the other day.

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At first glance, it looks like a privacy lock used on restroom doors that you can open with anything flat, but when you look in there are horizontally oriented pins on both sides of the keyway. I'm guessing this lock takes a double sided dimple key.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 28 May 2007 19:15

Yeah, looks like a dimple lock. Where'd you pick it up?
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Postby melvin2001 » 28 May 2007 20:44

im just stabbing in the dark here, but is it possible that it is one of those wafer locks that are manipulated by tracks in the key... or do they only put those in cars to make them look more secure.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 28 May 2007 21:20

Well he did say that it has pins situated on the sides of the keyway.
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Postby mh » 28 May 2007 23:37

If they are pins - KABA 8 ?

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Postby Shrub » 29 May 2007 5:54

I was gogin to say Kaba but maybe the 4 pin version used as a electronic switch,
What was the lock on?


Melvin,

Theres laser keys laser track keys and worm track keys that are the most comon,

Look at a 3ks to see a worm track, they have the cut groves very narrow and very windy and in the case of some locks they have double worms or more on each side of the key,

A laser track key has one groove along the side like car keys, these are most common on car keys but sometimes found elsewhere,

Laser keys are the same as laser track keys except they are open topped grooves in that they arent a track cut in the side of the key but rather the key is wasted where the top of the 'track' would normally have goine, vauxhall/open used these extensively for many years,


Obviously kaba are pin locks,
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Postby WOT » 29 May 2007 6:00

melvin2001 wrote:im just stabbing in the dark here, but is it possible that it is one of those wafer locks that are manipulated by tracks in the key... or do they only put those in cars to make them look more secure.


I don't have it. I saw it somewhere and noticed it was unusual, so I just took a picture of it.
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Postby Fredmad » 29 May 2007 7:07

It's look like the KESO 1000 or 3000 because of the "closed key way".
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Postby Schuyler » 29 May 2007 8:00

Fredmad wrote:It's look like the KESO 1000 or 3000 because of the "closed key way".


I was thinking KESO too, but was unconvinced. Got a reference? I only have empirical evidence to back up my idea.
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both are possible

Postby raimundo » 29 May 2007 8:38

if the pins sticking out move up or down, its a 'laser track' aka 'sidewinder' type key, but if the pins sticking out the sides of the keyway push into those sides, then its dimple lock type. if you see it again, you can figure it out.
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Postby greyman » 31 May 2007 11:13

A bit hard to tell without seeing the pins. It looks like a Keso - three rows of pins clustered around the top of the keyway.
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