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by bmn » 1 Jun 2007 19:50
I didn't no it had a gun though. I am locking it now.
I'm from New Mexico if your askin, anyway besides it having that stuff in it is that good or no???
And no I won't pick locks that aren't mine anymore (even though I only did it once).
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by bmn » 1 Jun 2007 19:58
And Jack or John whatever you would like to be called, i'm not an idiot I was just curious, and I no how to handle weapons so what's the big deal. I didn't hold it or anything, just looked.
ANYWAY!!!, besides that stuff being in there, is that good for a first time or no???
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by BobbO45 » 1 Jun 2007 21:40
You really are looking for feedback . . .
First we need to know more about the lock. You stated that it had pins on both sides, are you sure they weren't wafers or disks?
Can you post a picture or a model, or a link to more info on the lock?
Not to be rude, but for 37 minutes of picking time it sounds like you eventually just got lucky.
Also, what were you using to pick it?
If you were not using actual picks made out of a decent material, such as street sweeper bristles or hacksaw blades, maybe paper clips for example, then I suggest making quality picks.
To truly be able to feel what is happening inside of a lock and learn to pick well, you must use decent tools.
Note: the reason I am helping is that you stated that you will not pick locks that aren't yours anymore. The big deal is that you violated the privacy of your uncle, and could very easily damaged a lock that protected items that are valuable to him. Imagine explaining that one to a locksmith who came out to fix his security box. "Well I was just . . . "
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by n00bking » 1 Jun 2007 22:04
My locks. Ones I can pick easily. And ones I have picked like 3 times and it took me like 20 years per time. But overall my favorite lock...I guess my KW1 Deadbolt, which broke, waiting for some pins and springs in the mail. (Snap gun doesn't know it's own strength... 
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by JackNco » 1 Jun 2007 22:28
bmn wrote:And Jack or John whatever you would like to be called, i'm not an idiot I was just curious, and I no how to handle weapons so what's the big deal. I didn't hold it or anything, just looked.
ANYWAY!!!, besides that stuff being in there, is that good for a first time or no???
OK, first off i didn't call u an idiot. I implied it as you opened a box that wasn't yours. I was trying to make my point as clearly as i could. there are lots of reasons most of us do not agree with picking locks that do not belong to us.
The main one being ITS ILLEGAL!
Second one is that you have a very good chance of breaking a lock. and then you would either have to admit what you did or leave it broken without telling anyone and cover you ass. in this case that would mean the gun would be locked up for good if your uncle needed it.
third you may well have damaged the lock. even if it did open for you, you have no idea if you have damaged your uncles lock (especially if its a wafer, and it sounds like it might be). after 37minutes of picking, especially from a beginner will have added a lot of wear to the lock. you may have weakened its security and made it easier for the next person that tries to get in. or just drastically reduced its life span.
And lastly in this case you had no idea if once you had opened it you would need the key to LOCK it again. and as it contained a fire arm ide say being able to lock it again would be a good idea.
As for the lock. Well we have no idea what the lock is. as said after 37mins picking a lock ide assume i got lucky as well. especially as you have given no details as to what you were picking with.
All the best
John

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by bmn » 1 Jun 2007 22:41
I think it did rely on luck, but I also read that it is mostly luck.
Anyway, I still did it that's what matters to me.
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by JackNco » 1 Jun 2007 22:52
well ya u did beat it i guess. but its not just luck, coupel fo months and ull be opening locks in virtually the same times and ull get easy locks to well under a minute.
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by amehel0 » 1 Jun 2007 23:02
my favourite is bi-lock. doesnt mean i can pick it though. i love abloys so smooth running.
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by bumpit » 2 Jun 2007 4:30
but I also read that it is mostly luck. Anyway
You just insulted every intermediate lockpicker on this entire site. 
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by Schuyler » 2 Jun 2007 9:33
bmn wrote:I think it did rely on luck, but I also read that it is mostly luck. Anyway, I still did it that's what matters to me.
Oddly I agree with bumpit. Do you think tens of thousands of people, hundreds of active and productive members would be gathered here if it were luck?
I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it, but you're not developing a great track record.
I can only hope UWSDWF finds you...
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by freakparade3 » 2 Jun 2007 20:04
bmn wrote:I think it did rely on luck, but I also read that it is mostly luck. Anyway, I still did it that's what matters to me.
With your other posts, and your apparent drive to open locks that do not belong to you and that you don't have permission to open, you will need luck on your side to stay out of prison. Please go away young lad.
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by bmn » 2 Jun 2007 23:55
Wow, I didn't think you guy's would get so offended.
Someone posted that on here, so why didn't you tell him anything???
That's where I got that from, some one posting it on HERE!!!
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by Schuyler » 3 Jun 2007 0:41
bmn wrote:Wow, I didn't think you guy's would get so offended. Someone posted that on here, so why didn't you tell him anything??? That's where I got that from, some one posting it on HERE!!!
Point me to them and I will happily shake them down over it. And you're right about our reaction to you, you didn't say it was only luck, you said you heard someone else say that. I'll absolutely apologize to you for my part of that, and hope you'll forgive me for it.
Like I said though, point me to the guy who calls it luck and I'll have words with them.
Also, I hereby call off UWSDWF!
I fear, though, that he's one of those forces of nature that, once called upon, cannot be dispelled.
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by bumpit » 3 Jun 2007 4:41
I fear, though, that he's one of those forces of nature that, once called upon, cannot be dispelled.
I just came back from the bar and I just can't stop laughing 
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by bmn » 4 Jun 2007 1:11
This keeps coming up, so I figured I'd write it up in a more comprehensive manner and post it once. I am wholly convinced that many a newbie lockpicker (and perhaps even some more experienced ones) will do well to go through this.
Beginner’s Lockpicking Exercise
by digital_blue © 2005 Lockpicking101.com
The following exercise is one that I feel every new lockpicker will benefit from. I first learned about this exercise in Locks, Safes, And Security by Marc W. Tobias. The point of the exercise is to help a beginner to properly learn how to feel what is happening inside a lock, and to detect a binding pin. Many new lockpickers tend to use what I’ve often referred to as the “poke and prod†method, in that they spend a lot of time poking around in the lock with their pick tools, and along the way they manage to set the pins and eventually, through mostly luck, the lock opens. As exciting as this is for the beginner, if their skills do not develop past this poke and prod method, they will have increasing difficulty as they move on to harder locks.
Right there on that DB guy's post.
You happy go have your talk with him.
and yes I forgive ya.
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