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Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby nekret » 3 Jun 2007 14:53

yeah, I was assuming that the moving part involved actually had something to do with the unique lock and not all Keso 2000 locks.
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Postby jimmy33 » 3 Jun 2007 17:06

Thanks mh for your reply.
I'll try to buy a Evva MKS then.
The EVVA MKS is safe against picking and impressioning, so you don't need a DRUMM Gemini, right?
What Schutzbeschlag can you recommend? What is it for?

nekret, yes that is the Keso lock I have.
From what I've read the Keso S2000 omega is not safe from lock picking, impressioning, copying, bumping, etc..
Apparently this cheap machine can even make a copy:
http://www.multipick-service.cc/htdocs/ ... techsk.php
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Postby mh » 3 Jun 2007 23:32

jimmy33 wrote:What Schutzbeschlag can you recommend? What is it for?


Escutcheon plates protect the cylinder from brute force.
We don't talk about details of destructive methods here, but you can probably imagine. Or ask the dealer.
Buy one with a high insurance rating (VdS B and the like) and that looks good on your door.

Cheers,
mh
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Postby RangerF150 » 4 Jun 2007 5:46

Just add a nice 5 lever Chubb mortice lock to the door, in addition to what you have, placed low down on the door, awkward to pick and kick !!

And a large python snake , should anyone manage to get in you will know it.
The python will have a happy look on his face and a large bulge in his stomach :-)
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Postby jimmy33 » 4 Jun 2007 17:09

Trying to learn a bit more about picking/bumping.
If I've locked my door and turned the locks one or two times and somebody opens it via picking or bumping would he then be able to lock the door once or twice, too, or could I tell because the door has just been shut?
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Postby mh » 4 Jun 2007 23:33

jimmy33 wrote:somebody opens it via picking or bumping would he then be able to lock the door once or twice, too, or could I tell because the door has just been shut?


It could also be locked again. Once ot twice. Just takes a little bit longer.
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