What locks next?

by **metalking00** » 31 May 2007 0:55

I'm still very new to lockpicking, but I feel that Im getting better. All of the master locks Ive come across are very easy, but thats all they have at the hardware store. I want to get some nicer locks, but Im not sure which would be good stepping stones for me to learn on. Could anyone suggest some locks that I should look into? Id like to see a list of good locks for learning that ascend in order of difficulty, but even just reccomendations are appreciated.

here are the locks Ive done, if it helps at all.

master 5,3,240,140, wei, magnum
schlage deadbolt and doorknob
kwikset deadbolt (first lock I picked)
kryptonite bike lock, some other bike lock
the door lock to a friends car
several other locks I dont remember

by **Eyes_Only** » 31 May 2007 1:11

Not too shabby, got quite a kills list there. If you haven't yet learned how to rekey a lock I would suggest this. Learn how to take a deadbolt lock apart and change the pinning to it. Also don't follow the MACS guide at all, just pin them in any random combination and that should give you a little more of a challenge. Try to invest in a set of spool and serrated driver pins too. Those are always fun to pick.

by **metalking00** » 31 May 2007 1:34

Yeah, I repinned the kwikset one a bunch of times, until my friend had a go at it and the plug popped out sending springs flying. The wei is also repinable, and Ive done it in every combination, but its just not much of a challenge because the pin lengths make it so that you only have to pick 2 pins.

Getting a deadbolt and a repinning kit sounds like a good idea, Ill check into that tomorrow.

by **blake1803** » 31 May 2007 1:50

Try impressioning a key to each one of them

by **amehel0** » 31 May 2007 3:12

if your lokking for a challenge align the bigger(longer) pins in front.they will actually hider your abilyity to access the rear of the lock.

by **Kaellman** » 31 May 2007 5:59

Ever thought of going for other lock systems? There are loads of disk,lever and combo locks out there that are loads of fun to play with

by **LockNewbie21** » 31 May 2007 6:15

If your good with US crap locks- not implying your skill, rather US produced locks.

Go for euro cylinders, you'll find the crappiest of them are harder than a quick set.

Cheep Dimple Locks, Yale's, ISEO to name a few.

There pins are wider in diameter from what i own, and tollerences are much better.

Also its pretty freakin rare that you buy a euro with out atleast 2 spools.

by **JackNco** » 31 May 2007 6:56

ya if u fancy goign the euro profile rout ISEO and sterling might be a nice start. but not that much of a step up. maybe a union cylinder. up from that zone locks can be a bit tricky at times and then up again the evvas and geges.

If you want to stick with American locks maybe an everest pinned with a couple of spools.

You might also want to look in to tricircle. nice locks for the price and usually contain a couple of spools or mushrooms.

sounds like you are making a great start anyway.

All the best

John

by **metalking00** » 31 May 2007 23:43

Ive repinned the wei with every possible combination, and it didnt change the difficulty much.

The car lock was a disk lock, and I think the bike lock might've been too.

Thanks for the suggestions. Im going to stop by a lock store tomorrow to see what I can find.

by **Eyes_Only** » 1 Jun 2007 0:30

Ohh! This would work out only if you have a PayPal account but if you have the means and the way, check out eBay. They've got some real good deals there. I found an auction for must have been a box full of different
locks that was still at under $20 last time I checked a couple hours ago.

And one lock I suggest for kicks if regular hardware store locks are boring you, get a Schlage Everest lock. It's really not much on security and uses a cheap check pin as a secondary locking device but it's pretty high tolerance and thats the lock I pick to reassure myself when I get discouraged after an hour of failed attempts at a Medeco or other high security locks I have.

by **metalking00** » 2 Jun 2007 16:59

I went and got a brinks max security lock today. Seems that every pin is a security pin. So far its too hard for me, but thats what I was after anyway. Ill get it eventually.

by **metalking00** » 2 Jun 2007 19:44

Ive gotten it open about 10 times sine my last post. Is every pin in it spoorated?

by **bumpit** » 2 Jun 2007 21:19

I went and got a brinks max security lock today. Seems that every pin is a security pin. So far its too hard for me, but thats what I was after anyway. Ill get it eventually.

If it is a Brinks Shrouded it has serrated pins with 2-3 spools. Therefore having 2-3 Spoolrated pins. It is also very possible you have a Brinks lock with just spools and it says maximum secuirty. If you gave us a model number we could figure it out for you.

by **metalking00** » 3 Jun 2007 17:35

there arent any numbers on the lock itself, but it is the brinks shrouded.

the only number I see on the package is 102-44831.

While picking this lock, I had an idea for a different kind of security pin. Im not sure how well it would work, but there are already serrated key pins, so why not a spooled one? My thinking is that if you overlift it, it would seem as though you'd hit a spool, making you want to lift it higher to get a true set.

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