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by blake1803 » 7 Jun 2007 15:26
If anyone has used this -- what types of keyways have you had success with? It looks to be a wonderful tension tool but it does seem a bit thick. I realize that the thickness is the idea, but even so, ideally I'd want to know which keyways it might work with specifically before considering buying it...
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by zeke79 » 7 Jun 2007 16:01
Forget about master padlocks, euro keyways, most best, schlage and the likes. It is too thick . I have one and personally never really use the thing. It is just too thick I think.
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by NIC » 7 Jun 2007 16:09
I love my pry bar !!! You have to get used to it because it's easy to over do the tension !! For me it fits perfectly in Weiser, Yale, Russwin, Schlage locks (everest and all standard Schlage keyways, i've heard from eyes_only that it does not fit in Primus. It fits Medeco biaxial and M3. It's perfect to get the right tension in the 51s !! Fits some Masters, American padlocks, Brinks ect !!
You might want to consider getting the Flat-5 tension tools!!
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by Eyes_Only » 7 Jun 2007 16:11
I bought one a few months ago and I love it! It's the first wrench I reach for when picking most locks. It's very solid so the feedback I get from it is way better than any other wrench I've used in the past so it helps out with high tolerance locks.. Although on some locks like a ASSA V-10 or a Schlage Primus it would be too thick to fit in the keyway. But otherwise I really like the wrench.
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by zeke79 » 7 Jun 2007 16:35
Wow, mine must be thicker as it will not fit in a schlage std sc1 keyed lock.
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by Eyes_Only » 7 Jun 2007 16:41
Measure it. Mines came out to be 0.047 inches on both working ends..
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by NIC » 7 Jun 2007 16:44
Eyes_Only wrote:Measure it. Mines came out to be 0.047 inches on both working ends..
same here
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by dmux » 7 Jun 2007 17:18
i have one coming in the mail, hopefully it does well for my tension needs
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by JackNco » 7 Jun 2007 17:50
yep .047"
which is massive
SO standard = .028"
SO Slim = 0.17"
I have a pry bar but never use it either
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by Exodus5000 » 7 Jun 2007 20:08
Do you guys feel that a peterson pry is superior to standard L wrenches by a lot? Or... is it one of those "some with a personal preference" might like it kind of thing?
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by JackNco » 7 Jun 2007 20:27
the steel is excellent, and the quality of the tool can not be faulted (IMHO).
But i find it bulky and clumsy. it is a tool i never turn to. it never fits well in the locks i pick and when it does it gets in the way as i work close to the plug.
others may have other opinions, i would never give it up in my kit, im sure it will come in handy. but so far it has not.
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by Eyes_Only » 7 Jun 2007 20:39
If you deal primarily with euro locks or ones with a small keyway like a ASSA or a Schlage Primus you're not gonna get that tool in. Perhaps thats why JackNco finds it's use limited. But for most US locks like Kwikset, Weiser, Arrow, Dexter, SC1 Schlage and some padlocks you shouldn't have any real problems. Plus IMHO I find the Pry Bar a great aid when I attempt to pick my Medeco cylinders, a perfect fit.
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by raimundo » 8 Jun 2007 10:28
for those who like the stiffy wrench, and everyone should have one for those times when the key turns stiff, with the weight of the door resting on the bolt, there is always the allen wrench ground down, this usually gives a tapered blade that will fit all keyways tight.
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by JackNco » 8 Jun 2007 11:31
Eyes_Only wrote:If you deal primarily with euro locks or ones with a small keyway like a ASSA or a Schlage Primus you're not gonna get that tool in. Perhaps thats why JackNco finds it's use limited. But for most US locks like Kwikset, Weiser, Arrow, Dexter, SC1 Schlage and some padlocks you shouldn't have any real problems. Plus IMHO I find the Pry Bar a great aid when I attempt to pick my Medeco cylinders, a perfect fit.
admittedly it wont fit in most of my locks. but in the ones it does for i sill don't go for it (Schlarge, medeco yale, zone). but that might be because i cut tension tools for different locks. i like them to be flush against the lock (or as close as i can get them).
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by Eyes_Only » 9 Jun 2007 0:11
Just wondering, can the long end of the Pry Bar be used on KIK locks on a Tulip shaped knob? I went over to Home Depot today with my Pry Bar to find out for myself but they didn't have any locks on display with a tulip shaped knob.
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