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Identifying lock models

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Postby JackNco » 9 Jun 2007 1:10

SemiShady wrote:sorry if that came off as arragant, but i'm not picking it don't worry. Is there a list of all schlege deadbolts models. like some kind of cataloge or something?


Thanks


My response my ah ave been a little over the top. there are several schlarge locks and many copies. without taking it apart there is no really way to know.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Jun 2007 1:42

If a independant locksmith was called in to do this masterkey set up then he may have removed all the spool pins if there were any, or if there were none to start with, may have added his own. When a lock has been opened up before then trying to guess whats in the lock all goes to hell.

I assume one of the reasons you want to know whether your front door locks have any security pins is so theres some extra features in there to deter any nefarious pickers out there?
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Postby SemiShady » 9 Jun 2007 1:50

just hoping i'm safe. Once you succesfully start picking deadbolts in a matter of minutes it kinda gets ya worried about your doors that are protected by the same technology......
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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Jun 2007 2:01

I think we all felt that way when we got proficient at picking locks. I just don't have the cash to buy a Medeco deadbolt to go along with my M3 knob lock I have ready to go so I'm getting by with a Schlage knob and deadbolt I loaded up with spool and serrated pins. But everyday I worry about the security of my home cos of that.
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Postby SemiShady » 9 Jun 2007 2:27

Yeah. U would think that you would beable to look up what model of lock you have and look up what kind of security it has in it. I would assume people would be concerned.
However after that part about masterkeying i realize there's defenatly a good chance that the original pins arent in there anyway.

thx for all the comments again guys.

ps. got me a puppy.. the world best anti-entry device so i guess me and him will protect the place and not the lock on the door.
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Postby NKT » 9 Jun 2007 4:00

If you are really worried about it, ask the landlord if you can have the lock changed for something a bit more secure, and give him a key. If there are only one or two other flats, it probably won't be an issue.

Over here, I'd say 50% of the (supposed to be) masterkeyed locks I see have been drilled out and replaced.
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Postby SemiShady » 9 Jun 2007 4:30

the back door (which we really never use) also has a lockout deadbolt (is that what there called? its a deadbolt with no key hole on the other side, just a metal circle) so all i would care about is adding a new deadbolt to our front door. i would have to use 2 keys but thats fine (i gotta use the key twice anyway) but landlord said no

i originally wanted to lock my landlord out, and when he said no i said i'd give him a copy of the key and he still said no.

i got a funny feeling he might have a superMaster key that opens all the doors to all of the duplexes.
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Postby blake1803 » 9 Jun 2007 4:42

SemiShady: does your house have any windows? If so, I recommend the following safety precautions:

1. Remove the windows.
2. Determine the manufacturer of the glass.
3. Call the manufacturer and request samples of different types of glass.
4. Upon receipt of the samples, proceed to smash them all to bits with your left shoe.
5. Take solace in knowing that your lock, at least, can probably not be smashed to bits with a shoe.

:wink:

It's easy to dwell on and worry about your own security when you're involved in this hobby. Easy -- but maybe not well-founded. Is my deadbolt very secure? No. Would upgrading to a high security lock make me feel a little more secure? Maybe. Would I be any more secure? Unlikely. It's hard to argue with statistics. If the security of my home is ever breached (unlikely), I sincerely doubt it will be due to the locks (even less likely). My real advice is to relax 8)
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Postby SemiShady » 9 Jun 2007 4:49

i live in the heart of downtown. people look funny breaking and climbing into windows, they also make alot of noise. Bumping or quickly rakeing a lock from anything more than 20 feet away loooks like someone using a key and walking through the front door. I'm not worried about people comming in through my windows. Plus the bottom of the lowest window is like 6 ft up, so they would have quite an ordeal getting through them.

I'm more worried about theft when i'm not home, not my safety.
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Postby SemiShady » 9 Jun 2007 4:53

ps. i am not really worried about this. just a convo that we got on.

would i be happier if i knew that even if i wanted to make it look like i used a key and walked in normally i couldn't? Yes.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Jun 2007 12:29

Well on the upside your door has the metal reinforcement wrapped around the deadbolt so that alone should give the potential thief a hard time trying to break down the door by kicking it in.

Brute force entry is what I am most concerned about with my home. I have a window to my kitchen that could be easily busted in so I plan on getting steel bars installed like how most of my neighbors have on their windows. I'm probably gonna drop by Lowes today to buy me a reinforcement shield for my deadbolt to go along with the one I already have for my knob lock. I already secured my strike by drilling and screwing in four 2 inch screws to the frame of my home to strenghten my strike and door frame.
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