crazy lock on youtube

[mr curious]

I thought it was going to be a dimple lock from first looking at the key.

I'd love to have a go at picking one. Although would probably get frustrated at how useless i am

Has anybody ever picked one and would a tension wrench and a feeler do the job?

[JackNco]

i think that lock would defeat most of us.

[Eyes_Only]

i too would go whit abloy

Even more similar is the DOM Diamant.
In Anloy-style locks, the discs are turned whne you start turning the key.
In the DOM Diamant system (and that Miwa PR lock), the discs or wafers are turned when the key is inserted.

Cool marketing material, though, I wish all lock manufacturers did that type of animated demonstration.

Cheers,
mh

Well the video did say that the lock was engineered with european lock technologies in mind.

[Raccoon]

I'd still use a torque wrench or a screwdriver + crescent wrench. That lock looks too delicate to me. The wafers aren't very long and don't protrude deep into the shell, and the sidebar is small too. Unless this were made from especially strong metal, it should be easy to sheer away and rotate the lock & cam.

Did anyone notice any break-away components that would cause the lock to fall apart if brute-forced, before it allowed the lockset to unlock?

[TOWCH]

To me this lock is more art than anything else. It's a relatively untraveled path in lock design and that's what attracts me to it. I don't see much advantage to it.

[jhl]

Really it looks like one of those machines which is amazing simply because it works, despite its complexity.

The video and all its wobbling wafers left me wondering what, exactly, was really going on with each part.

[cav_king]

It would certainly be challenging to by-pass. That is a cool video.

I dont talk japanese but understood the concept by the video.

Thanks for posting that!

~CK

[SemiShady]

a very cool video (minus the language)

The very narrow keyway looks like quite a challange. Be tuff to get any types of tools in 'em.

However is it just me or when they show how the key actually maniplates the lock, does it look like ...edited... but a 150$ lock... wow. i must be wrong (i hope so)

edited by Schuyler - advanced discussion - good that you're thinking creatively, but please save the discussion of picking high security locks for when you get advanced access

[JackNco]

ide say you are and discussion of attacks on this lock will be considered advanced material.

But no i don't believe that method would work

John

[SemiShady]

Good.

[iqarus]

it looks almost like they've taken small parts from many lock manafacturers and mixed it together.

the key looks amazingly similar to a kaba key.

[Schuyler]

Just moved the thread into the "Locks" section, as no question was asked (was in questions before)

[JackNco]

Your just testing all the new features now shoes

[Kaellman]

That little User-Friendly chapter in the end is really quite erotic.

[greyman]

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It reminded me of the Ingersoll lever packs. but with added "bull horns" to interact with the dimples instead of cuts on the side of the key pushing them. then again i have become slightly obsessed with the Ingersoll and could be talking rubbish.

It also has some very nasty looking cuts on the <insert proper name for the bits that move about> so bumping or any other bypass i can thing off would be out.
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John

You beat me to that comparison

It is very like an Ingersoll 10-lever machanism. The Miwa PR is a step up from the Miwa U9, which is pretty much a direct copy of the Ingersoll, right down to the double-sided wafer type key. I notice that Miwa is retrofitting high security cylinders to their locks, but have they done something to counter the easy bypass that applies to a number of their locksets? (You may have detected my less-than-impressed tone in relation to Miwa. This is because they use blatantly racist marketing.)